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#91
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#94
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Hope the injured driver will be OK soon.
Lets hope we don't see a pile up like that again, but the Kink is one of the few places on any track where it can and unfortunately did happen..
I've been to many tracks and Road America is the most fearsome, most difficult for me. Its my favorite track to date even though I never got anywhere near fast enough to hang with the fast guys but drove my heart out and had a lot of great racing. It was hot and I was exhausted after the races, never mind the enduro!
PCA was awesome, I lost more time than most around me when the workers were towing cars of track, but respect to those guys and I wanted zero surprise / risk of a spill in those area's. Thanks to them we got a ton of driving...
Great seeing everyone.
Lets hope we don't see a pile up like that again, but the Kink is one of the few places on any track where it can and unfortunately did happen..
I've been to many tracks and Road America is the most fearsome, most difficult for me. Its my favorite track to date even though I never got anywhere near fast enough to hang with the fast guys but drove my heart out and had a lot of great racing. It was hot and I was exhausted after the races, never mind the enduro!
PCA was awesome, I lost more time than most around me when the workers were towing cars of track, but respect to those guys and I wanted zero surprise / risk of a spill in those area's. Thanks to them we got a ton of driving...
Great seeing everyone.
#95
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#96
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I referred to minor versus major as in category of surgery and mortality risk. Major surgery after trauma is just bad news, e.g. Justin Wilson. Minor surgery is Good news. I saw the wreck. So I am relieved.
#97
RA driver surgery
It is in fact, major surgery for both his spine and feet. Don't under estimate the degree of injury or importance of immediate safety management. RA did a fabulous job.
#98
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Time for a bit of controversy, is it time that PCA started a tiered Race License system, where you had to work your way up the power curve? The top tier cars that are available to run in PCA are raced in the professional series with few modifications. There are quite a few rooky drivers out there who are extremely capable drivers who are in these cars but can you have the situational awareness to stay on top of one of these machines with a limited racing history. The only reason I am bringing this up is that it seems that the occurrence significant incidences is increasing.
#99
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In this particular instance, the big pile-up was caused by drivers not seeing the yellow on entry into the Kink. I slowed down because I saw a puff of smoke but when i reviewed the video (HD), I couldn't tell whether the yellow was up or not at the flag station. He was certainly not waving it. I am sure the RSR driver had no idea what was going on. Lot of drivers in that group were fairly experienced.
At the drivers meeting before Sprint 2, one of drivers actually raised the issue that quite a number of corner workers were "asleep." He would know because he was the lead driver in the run group. Now I certainly have to agree with hims comments. The corner worker might have prevented the secondary pile up and the injury to the RSR driver with a waving yellow.
At the drivers meeting before Sprint 2, one of drivers actually raised the issue that quite a number of corner workers were "asleep." He would know because he was the lead driver in the run group. Now I certainly have to agree with hims comments. The corner worker might have prevented the secondary pile up and the injury to the RSR driver with a waving yellow.
#100
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I've been to many tracks and Road America is the most fearsome, most difficult for me. Its my favorite track to date even though I never got anywhere near fast enough to hang with the fast guys but drove my heart out and had a lot of great racing. It was hot and I was exhausted after the races, never mind the enduro!
#102
Three Wheelin'
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Originally Posted by surathdp
In this particular instance, the big pile-up was caused by drivers not seeing the yellow on entry into the Kink. I slowed down because I saw a puff of smoke but when i reviewed the video (HD), I couldn't tell whether the yellow was up or not at the flag station. He was certainly not waving it. I am sure the RSR driver had no idea what was going on. Lot of drivers in that group were fairly experienced.
At the drivers meeting before Sprint 2, one of drivers actually raised the issue that quite a number of corner workers were "asleep." He would know because he was the lead driver in the run group. Now I certainly have to agree with hims comments. The corner worker might have prevented the secondary pile up and the injury to the RSR driver with a waving yellow.
At the drivers meeting before Sprint 2, one of drivers actually raised the issue that quite a number of corner workers were "asleep." He would know because he was the lead driver in the run group. Now I certainly have to agree with hims comments. The corner worker might have prevented the secondary pile up and the injury to the RSR driver with a waving yellow.
#103
In this particular instance, the big pile-up was caused by drivers not seeing the yellow on entry into the Kink. I slowed down because I saw a puff of smoke but when i reviewed the video (HD), I couldn't tell whether the yellow was up or not at the flag station. He was certainly not waving it. I am sure the RSR driver had no idea what was going on. Lot of drivers in that group were fairly experienced. At the drivers meeting before Sprint 2, one of drivers actually raised the issue that quite a number of corner workers were "asleep." He would know because he was the lead driver in the run group. Now I certainly have to agree with hims comments. The corner worker might have prevented the secondary pile up and the injury to the RSR driver with a waving yellow.
#104
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Phoopis,
I have another video from another car that shows your flip.Pretty incredible. I am so glad that you are unscathed. It was just a bad day with lot of errors, both from drivers and corner workers. Since some driver errors are inevitable, I think we need little more help from corner workers in places like the kink. There was no yellow when I came by but I saw smoke slowed immediately. But the two cars in front me created the second wreck that trapped us.
I have another video from another car that shows your flip.Pretty incredible. I am so glad that you are unscathed. It was just a bad day with lot of errors, both from drivers and corner workers. Since some driver errors are inevitable, I think we need little more help from corner workers in places like the kink. There was no yellow when I came by but I saw smoke slowed immediately. But the two cars in front me created the second wreck that trapped us.
#105
Burning Brakes
I think one of those new light flags needs to be on that corner worker stand at the kink. You can't really see the flag until you reach the left hand rumble strip at turn in. By then it's pretty late to shave any speed if the kink is jammed with an accident - especially without ABS. It doesn't help that the barrier just below the flag stand is yellow. It may make the barrier easier to see but - at a glance - a standing yellow flag blends in. A yellow light on that flag platform would be visible from the Continental bridge.