PASSING 101

"Many drivers focus on gaining “rights” to a corner, rather than controlling the other driver, and this often creates the circumstance that leads to incident"

http://www.vrgonline.org/school/arti...assing_101.pdf

 

someone taught me an invalueable bit of knowledge. i was in race competing with someone for a few laps finally got a good run, in their draft, and came alongside in the brake zone, but made the mistake of thinking i then had to get by them fully before turn in, went too deep, washed out, put a wheel off spun, etc. etc. no contact but was foolish.
once you're alongside the guy, the corner is yours, he cant turn into you, gather yourself up, and you turn in properly, why waste yourself going even deeper.

its possible that the GT3R WC carthought he coudl get that mustang, but frankly, jim taggart is a well experienced driver and would just know its not the case. if you see the video, you can see his tail waggging twice almost like his rear brakes failed or locked up, and he's in that junk and the car just wont stop. horrible feeling, been there done that. made more horrible when you wreck somoene else's car in addition to your own.

 

Open wheel guys seem to figure this out fairly quickly too

 

Hard to say with absolute certainty, but with 6 or so cars ahead, most/all that are outside and have turned in before he even got to the corner, it was pretty low percentage pass from the get go. And he has the benefit of seeing them but they can't see him, so that determination could only really be made by him.
As he was offline and in the junk then situational awareness comes into play because hard braking is definitely going to be fettered.
Now if his brakes failed thats another story.

I concede that its easy Monday to criticize moves like this one and the one above ^^^ but some moves just seem ill-advised.

 

THIS, and the next two posts say volumes.

I remember very much the same illustrations from my Father's books - back in the early sixties.

 

Well said. It seems everyone is an expert when someone else has done something stupid.

 

^^THIS^^

 

That's one thing I like about PWC. You can check their website and they will list penalties. Not always right away, but they get listed.

 

This is what all racing organizations, pro and amateur, should do....

 

No, they have not. All they have said is "I wanna make sure the rules are applied equitably" which is in itself their subjective opinion.

FINALLY a direct and honest answer!



I disagree. Pro means money making. Amateur means fun. Big difference.

 

VR,

They have answered your question. Just because you don't think the answer is a valid answer does not change that. It also does not mean that are being indirect or dishonest.

While Club Racing is typically done for fun, you can be injured badly or killed doing it. The drivers have a right to know who is doing something on the track that warrants a penalty. When I raced motorcycles, penalties were published for all to see by both professional organizations and amateur clubs.

When things are done in secret, distrust follows....

 

It's when things AREN'T done and the reason kept in secret I that worry about...

 

I think most want to know that the information used was balanced and accurate, why the penalty was issued and, in my cases, that the guilty party was given a stern *** chewing when the incident was egregious or in poor sportsmanship. Yes, it's all relative and subjective but not knowing anything leaves you wondering whether the officials reactions were commensurate with the incident. I think most want to know how the club views and handles problem drivers in this dangerous environment. Pro's get weeded out, am's just keep coming.

How would you deal with a driver who's 1st return from a suspension hits a rookie from behind causing significant damage. Not a rookie in the way....a GTC3 that's hit by a GTA2 (w/ yrs of experience) after the GTC3 out qualified him and then took the overall pole in is his EVER race beating the GTA2 by a good margin. Obviously the rookie X gave no pause and became a target because the GTA2 driver pile drove me after lap 1 in the 2nd sprint. Oh....he's was paddocked next to me and left without saying a word. Welcome to Club Racing! Trust me, that leaves you with a feeling of what the hell did they say to this guy and what steps would they take?

That driver was racing a couple months later....

And my 2nd rookie weekend was worse

I don't envy the stewards and really appreciate and respect how tough their job can be. Personally, I think both parties should be present when a decision is made so that both parties know the reasoning and the consequences. Plus it gives the drivers a chance to clear the air or beat the crap out of each other.

 

this thread is entertaining at a minimum. Would the whole transparency issue, go away if a PCA scrutineer, just gave their opinion on if they would give a 13/13 from the posted video? We don't have to know the actual decision, but knowing if a 13 would be given for such an incident may help others....

 

OK?