Texas RS

My personal philosophy is to not have a live timer in the car, so I am only focused on driving. I save the analysis for after I get out of the car. I use the down time to identify where I want to focus for the next session. Chasing the clock may lead to over-driving... I mean more than usual.

TXE36

I agree wrt a predictive lap timer, but I don't see the harm with just an elapsed time display, particularly if it only updates upon S/F crossing so that you can't see it running.

-Mike

Matt Romanowski

The predictive time is the #1 way to have instant feedback on how you are driving.

ShakeNBake

Personally I would prefer segment times, I would like immediate feedback on a section of the track I am working on, especially in traffic.

TXE36

From a technical argument, I understand the reasoning. For me, I found the predictive time very distracting due to a lack of discipline on my part from looking at it too much. Of course, it was the first time I had one in the car so perhaps my judgement is too early.

I like the idea of near real time feedback without having to dig out the computers and study graphs. My driving isn't anywhere near good enough to warrant minute study between sessions yet.

-Mike

ProCoach

As is true for most...

The plus/minus is very useful.

Updated real-time and constantly in TraqDash/Solo/G-Dash/MXL and Video VBOX OLED (although you can add segments for display in AiM software, then transmit to the device), it's best to fashion a plan with an alternate plan to test specific results in a segment.

Use this with alternate gears/lines/braking points (no more than two) where you execute as well as you can one scenario for three laps consistently, then implement the alternative scenario.

You'll see right away which might be better. No d/l required...

winders

It would be beneficial for you to learn to use the lap time data, especially predictive, while you are driving and not over drive the car.

I understand why the real time lap time data is a problem for you, but you need to get past that so you can learn better and faster. All it takes is practice and discipline.

Texas RS

Winders,

A predictive timer or in-car lap time is not a problem for me, as I am not over-driving the car. I may be slow, but I will allow those that have ridden with me or around me to speak for my pace and car control. I am no Sebastian Vettel and clearly know there is always more to find on the track. I have been successful (patient and disciplined) finding it once I come in to the pits and look at the data.

I think it has been said that one common thing among wrecked cars is a running lap timer. There is probably reason that the actuaries at insurance companies view a timed event differently than on a DE.

Matt Romanowski

So are four wheels and an engine. People crashed long before lap timers and to say that they create more crashes is not true.

winders

Texas RS,

No need to get defensive. What you wrote in post #151 does not match up with you are saying now.

Either way, what I said still stands:

It would be beneficial for you to learn to use the lap time data, especially predictive, while you are driving and not over drive the car.

winders

Amen to that! Lap timers don't cause crashes, the drivers do!

Texas RS

Winders,

What do you perceive to be an inconsistency in what I wrote in 151?

winders

Hmm...let's see. You wrote:

Then you wrote:

Yeah, that is real consistent....which one is it?

Scott

Texas RS

Just to be clear, I said I do not use a predictive lap timer in the car I wait until I get out to look at the data. Nothing inconsistent about that. The first comment on over-driving was tongue in cheek.

Veloce Raptor

Folks, we are going to do another one of these at TWS.

It will be October 12-13, which is a Monday (Columbus Day) & Tuesday.

More details will be forthcoming...

Here is the flyer from the 2013 event: