ASK THE COACH
#946
So many pearls in here. I wish that there was a repository somewhere, a cheat sheet, if you wish, of all the one-liners and concepts.
There's just no way to remember all this, and reviewing the thread regularly is out of the question.
There's just no way to remember all this, and reviewing the thread regularly is out of the question.
#948
copy that Francois - great thread to visit .. repeatedly
hey VR et al - your insight would be most appreciated!
Talking about skidpans ... thankfully I was on one at PDExperience last week!
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...-the-kink.html
hey VR et al - your insight would be most appreciated!
Talking about skidpans ... thankfully I was on one at PDExperience last week!
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...-the-kink.html
#949
Thread Starter
Rennlist Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 41,898
Likes: 1,737
From: All Ate Up With Motor
Well, I don't know that track. However, it appears you held steering way too long there (look at the yellow line on your steering wheel) when you knew the rear was going away...and look at all the track to your right as a result just before she let go. IMO had you released steering lock before apex, and tracked out all the way, you'd have had a greater chance of avoiding that Code Brown moment.
Nice save, though...wow
Nice save, though...wow
#950
Yes if I had been off the racing line to the right I would have avoided the glycol spill for sure.
The next turn is a right hander sweep so after the kink one has to move back to left of track to
make t 3. I figure I could have tried harder to counter lock before back went left onto grass
But glad to be safe and car unscathed. Wasn't time to **** myself so all dry too
After some more refelction I should add that I think I sensed/saw the shine ... but also didn't see any flags ...
so I thought "what the hell, lets check it out" - big mistake to assume the flagmen would pick up everything - self reliance required, especially on track
The next turn is a right hander sweep so after the kink one has to move back to left of track to
make t 3. I figure I could have tried harder to counter lock before back went left onto grass
But glad to be safe and car unscathed. Wasn't time to **** myself so all dry too
After some more refelction I should add that I think I sensed/saw the shine ... but also didn't see any flags ...
so I thought "what the hell, lets check it out" - big mistake to assume the flagmen would pick up everything - self reliance required, especially on track
Last edited by HiWind; 08-08-2012 at 12:48 PM. Reason: add
#951
Hey coaches
Can you share some tips as to how you detect drivers not looking down track when you are buckled in, wearing you HANS, and otherwise unable to actually see the driver's eyes?
I think this is one of my real failings as an instructor.
Thanks
Can you share some tips as to how you detect drivers not looking down track when you are buckled in, wearing you HANS, and otherwise unable to actually see the driver's eyes?
I think this is one of my real failings as an instructor.
Thanks
#952
-mike
#954
Thread Starter
Rennlist Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 41,898
Likes: 1,737
From: All Ate Up With Motor
Works every time!
#955
Rennlist Hoonigan
which cost no drachmas
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
which cost no drachmas
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 12,715
Likes: 1,009
From: Manchester, NH
When I was probably in the white group, I took an instructor out with me at Watkins Glen - probably about 10 years ago. She kept telling me eyes up when I was not looking far enough ahead. I would look up and pick up the pace. This happened about 10 times in the session. As we were driving in, I realized I had sun glasses on and she had no idea where I was really looking. When quized on it, she said it was all to do with how I was driving. Still holds true for everyone I've ridden with.
Or you can just tell them to look up since we are almost all not looking far enough ahead anyways.
#956
Rennlist
Basic Site Sponsor
Basic Site Sponsor
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 19,219
Likes: 3,364
From: Durham, NC and Virginia International Raceway
+1!
__________________
-Peter Krause
www.peterkrause.net
www.gofasternow.com
"Combining the Art and Science of Driving Fast!"
Specializing in Professional, Private Driver Performance Evaluation and Optimization
Consultation Available Remotely and at VIRginia International Raceway
-Peter Krause
www.peterkrause.net
www.gofasternow.com
"Combining the Art and Science of Driving Fast!"
Specializing in Professional, Private Driver Performance Evaluation and Optimization
Consultation Available Remotely and at VIRginia International Raceway
#959
I've got to learn to open my eyes at the scary corners!
At the moment I simply turn in, throttle up, shut my eyes and go flat when I feel a bump at the apex. But it seems to work OK....
At the moment I simply turn in, throttle up, shut my eyes and go flat when I feel a bump at the apex. But it seems to work OK....
#960
Still plays with cars.
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 15,078
Likes: 256
From: Montreal
Drivers not look far enough ahead (i.e. into the corner) tend to:
- Overbrake
-Turn in a bit late
- Go to the gas at or after the apex even on corners where an earlier turn in and throttle application is preferred and OBVIOUS if you look into the corner early enough.
- Overbrake
-Turn in a bit late
- Go to the gas at or after the apex even on corners where an earlier turn in and throttle application is preferred and OBVIOUS if you look into the corner early enough.