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Old 12-08-2010, 06:16 PM
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Crack was all the way through. I'll never use drilled rotors again, at least not up front. First sign of any issue was turn 10A at RATL.

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That does not look like an OEM rotor... Was It?

Also, the crack is not (in my opinion) directly related to the crossed drilled hole
Old 12-08-2010, 07:13 PM
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This happened last year. I'm not sure if it was OEM as it was already on the car when I purchases it. I don't think there's an OEM cross drilled AND slotted rotor, but I could be wrong.

The crack propagates from one of the holes to the outer edge. This is why I attribute the failure to the cross drilling. I may be wrong but cracks eminating from these holes is very common-at least in my limited experience.
Old 12-08-2010, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by onefastviking
You absolutely MUST use the #2 washer or it will break things.
That is what I thought, thanks.
Old 12-08-2010, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by manalex
This happened last year. I'm not sure if it was OEM as it was already on the car when I purchases it. I don't think there's an OEM cross drilled AND slotted rotor, but I could be wrong.

The crack propagates from one of the holes to the outer edge. This is why I attribute the failure to the cross drilling. I may be wrong but cracks eminating from these holes is very common-at least in my limited experience.
The slot is why I made the not OEM observation.

It appear the primary crack started mid way between the edge and hole (circled in red) from Heat saturation. Again, just my opinion.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CWhaley
That does not look like an OEM rotor... Was It?

Also, the crack is not (in my opinion) directly related to the crossed drilled hole
No way that's an OEM rotor.
Old 12-08-2010, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CWhaley
It appear the primary crack started mid way between the edge and hole (circled in red) from Heat saturation. Again, just my opinion.
Not sure you can make that kind of analysis from an iPhone pic. And believe me the picture did not capture the amount of deformation-it's more than just a simple crack.

I use to track a 996TT, much faster and MUCH heavier. Had to replace front rotors often due to cracking. Eventually upgraded the brakes to 6 piston and 2 pc floating. Most of the cracks, by far, started at the drilled holes and propagated outward. Most people advised that the rotors needed to be replaced whenever a crack from on hole met another or the edge of the disc. Never had a failure like this on the turbo (thank God), but I feel the causes in both cases are attributable to the holes, at least in part. The failure pictured just confirmed my sentiment that crossed-drilled rotors suck for tracking. Again just my opinion.
Old 12-08-2010, 09:23 PM
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I could see in the photo that the area I indicated was deformed. so after years of analyzing failures from worse imagery... I can say that it really was not the holes fault.
Old 12-08-2010, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CWhaley
... I can say that it really was not the holes fault.
^^^^^^

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Old 12-09-2010, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TRT41
^^^^^^

I appreciate the input and the contribution to the discussion.

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Originally Posted by CWhaley
I could see in the photo that the area I indicated was deformed. so after years of analyzing failures from worse imagery... I can say that it really was not the holes fault.
The edge of the crack is at the hole-this is undeniable. Whether it started there or not is irrelevant to me, it's involved in the failure (my opinion). Based on your pictorial analysis can you honestly say that the crack would have been as large, or as severe, without the hole there? I think not, again my opinion.

Look, I don't want or need to get into a pissing match about this rotor/crack. We all have our preferences based on our experiences. Good luck to you with your's and I wish you the best. Based on my experiences I don't see any disadvantage to avoiding crossed drilled rotors for track use when possible.
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Since I built my 996 in July 09', I've probably put in excess of 70 hours on it running both POC and NASA's full schedule of 17-18 races each per year. To date I've replaced one, that's correct, 1 front cross drilled OEM rotor. I run Pagid RS29's up front, RS 14's rear. Yea I've got some cracks between the holes, but none to the outside edge. You guys need to quit braking so much .....
Old 12-09-2010, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Since I built my 996 in July 09', I've probably put in excess of 70 hours on it running both POC and NASA's full schedule of 17-18 races each per year. To date I've replaced one, that's correct, 1 front cross drilled OEM rotor. I run Pagid RS29's up front, RS 14's rear. Yea I've got some cracks between the holes, but none to the outside edge. You guys need to quit braking so much .....
Old 12-09-2010, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
You guys need to quit braking so much .....
I've come to this same conclusion. There is a proper technique to braking, one day I'll figure it out.
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Talking First SP996 in a Club Race

Just signed up for the Sebring Club Race as the first ever "SP996" !
Can't wait, who is with me???!!!!
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