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2010 British Grand Prix

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Old 07-11-2010, 06:06 PM
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Transcript of the post race interviews:

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...ce-transcript/
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Originally Posted by JHowell37

British people are among the world's worst people. Individually, they're pleasant and charming. Collectively, they aren't worth a ****. I think nationality has played a role in many decisions of the stewards this year.
Say what you really think.

Pretty broad statement.
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Originally Posted by DanR
you may have a point re Alonso but do you really think nationality comes into it? If you were a steward would you make a decision with nationality that as a factor?
Nah... Just stirring the pot... I hope the stewards would be way more ethical then that!
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Originally Posted by D.Keshler
Alonso broke the rule, period. Even if he was forced off, he should have simply given the place back. That would have been an easy call for anyone on the pitwall to make, and it should have been done correctly.
I don't see it as black and white as you... but I respect your position.

Why didn't Kubica leave enough room for Alonso to stay on the track? I believe because if he did, he would easily be passed... so it's easier to squeeze Alonso out and hope for the penalty. That is why I believe the penalty is unfair, Alonso had no choice...

The second point, is that Kubica in an interview(on BBC), stated that the race director told both teams that Alonso needs to give the position back. However, Kubica's cars broke, so the argument is irrelevant. To then CHANGE the penalty to a drive through is where it becomes VERY unfair in my mind. Kubica's car broke, so give Alonso a warning and let the boys race.

I don't need to be right or wrong, just an opinion. Besides, A. Wayne has already decided I no nothing about F1!

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Originally Posted by PPo
Regardless if you like him or not, the penalty to Alonso was harsh and unfair.

Perhaps they expected Alonso to stop and wait for Kubica to come around the corner... give me a break, let them race.
That's exactly what Alonso should have done. He went 4 wheels over the white line and gained a position. That's a clear violation.

He deserved the penalty.
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Interestingly, at the 1 hour 11 minute mark (lap 28) on my DVR there was a car that passed the safety car (in exactly the same manner as Hamilton last week).

No penalty.......
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Kudos to Webber, Hamilton, and Rosberg for a great race.

Unfortunately, yet another boring race with no passing.....

British Grand Prix Results - 11 July 2010 - 52 Laps
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT LAPS TIME/RETIRE
1. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 52 1h24m38.200
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 52 1.360
3. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 52 21.307

4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 52 21.986
5. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Williams-Cosworth 52 31.456
6. Kamui Kobayashi Japan BMW Sauber-Ferrari 52 32.171
7. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 52 36.734
8. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 52 40.932
9. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 52 41.599
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Williams-Cosworth 52 42.012
11. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy Force India-Mercedes 52 42.459
12. Sebastien Buemi Switzerland Toro Rosso-Ferrari 52 47.627
13. Vitaly Petrov Russia Renault 52 59.374
14. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 52 1m02.385
15. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 52 1m07.489
16. Jarno Trulli Italy Lotus-Cosworth 51 1 Lap
17. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Lotus-Cosworth 51 1 Lap
18. Timo Glock Germany Virgin-Cosworth 51 1 Lap
19. Karun Chandhok India HRT-Cosworth 50 2 Laps
20. Sakon Yamamoto Japan HRT-Cosworth 50 2 Laps

R Jaime Alguersuari Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 44 Spin
R Pedro de la Rosa Spain BMW Sauber-Ferrari 29 Damage
R Robert Kubica Poland Renault 19 Driveshaft
R Lucas di Grassi Brazil Virgin-Cosworth 9 Hydraulics
FASTEST LAP:
Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 52 1:30.874
Old 07-11-2010, 07:53 PM
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What a heart breaker for Alonso. Arguably the best, maturity was one of his strong suits, unfortunately he seems to have lost his cool. Worst possible decision against Kubica. Weber, Hammy and Roseberg
ran a great race and Button's ability to take care of his car keeps paying massive dividends. Can someone tell me WTF is going on with Massa!
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Originally Posted by JHowell37
People say Vettel is highly motivated. I can agree. But I also think he needs to grow up a bit. Thanks to him, Red Bull is now having to fight their way back to the front. The accident in Turkey should have never happened.
If you took notice, when Vettel drafted and went to overtake Schumacher, Michael pulled the same crowding move that Webber did in Turkey. This time Vettel stayed on his line and made the pass.
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Originally Posted by rusnak
Webber is a racer's racer. Congratulations to him. Vettel is looking a bit reckless at times, but his day to be a champion will come. I just wonder if Christian Horner is up to the task of throwing Mark a bone and getting Sebastian to calm down.
I don't think it's up to Horner. They hinted today that the decision on the nose change came from Austria.
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Originally Posted by PPo
Regardless if you like him or not, the penalty to Alonso was harsh and unfair.

Perhaps they expected Alonso to stop and wait for Kubica to come around the corner... give me a break, let them race.

Poor precedant the FIA is setting...If somebody is trying to pass, just force them off the track, and let them go around you... then a few laps later the threat will dissapear in a penalty.

If that was Hamilton instead of Alonso, Mansell would have given Kubica a penalty for trying to race a Brit.
+1. Leave it to the brits to make sure their guys keep scoring points. This whole thing is turning into a joke.
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Originally Posted by Ray S
That's exactly what Alonso should have done. He went 4 wheels over the white line and gained a position. That's a clear violation.

He deserved the penalty.
Debating the infraction is one thing... we can set that aside because I believe the board would be fractured on that regardless of what anyone types. I respect your position, let's move on to the real issue...

The penalty would/should be that Alonso needs to give the position back, but Kubica's car broke before he was told and/or before Alonso had the oppourtunity to let Kubica take the position back.

What I strongly dissagree with is that when Kubica's car broke, they (Nigel) changed the penalty according to the race position at the time of the decision. They changed the penalty after they saw that Kubica's car broke. That to me is unfair, and I believe should be investigated to ensure that precedant is set for future situations like this one...

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Poor Sebastion,suprised Red Bull did not make Weber give up his podium for him after the race !
Old 07-11-2010, 10:16 PM
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6. Kamui Kobayashi Japan BMW Sauber-Ferrari 52 32.171

Koby FTW!
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Originally Posted by PPo
Debating the infraction is one thing... we can set that aside because I believe the board would be fractured on that regardless of what anyone types. I respect your position, let's move on to the real issue...
How could you debate the infraction?? The rule is very clear and he clearly violated it.

Do you deny that?

Originally Posted by PPo
The penalty would/should be that Alonso needs to give the position back, but Kubica's car broke before he was told and/or before Alonso had the oppourtunity to let Kubica take the position back.
Alonso could have avoided this by simply giving the position back and then re-passing Kubica. As soon as I saw the pass live I realized it would never stand.

How many race engineers does Ferrari have on the wall watching the same feed? Did LMS and Ferrai really think he would skate on such a cut and dry violation?

After Kubica retired the stewards hands are tied. They can't let it go unpunished and a drive through is the most logical penalty. After listening to him whine on the radio one week ago demanding a penalty for McLaren (for a much less clear violation) it's difficult to feel sorry for him.


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