Mid-Ohio Lap
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I had the opportunity to use a freinds GoPro to video a lap over the weekend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n40l45XRXAQ
Any constructive comments are appreciated.
Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n40l45XRXAQ
Any constructive comments are appreciated.
Thanks
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Dang! I've never taken a lap hanging out the drivers side window - that was different.
Not too bad - what was the lap time on that? 1:50 - 1:55 something?
R tires or street?
Not too bad - what was the lap time on that? 1:50 - 1:55 something?
R tires or street?
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First, I would look further ahead. Keep you eyes up and look through the apex to your exit. Second, make sure that you don't creep. You will lose a lot of corner speed by creeping a few feet off your turn-in point.
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Looks like an even, smooth lap. Maybe too early/tight at about 1:06 between 7 and 8 at Madness? Could this have been caused by not being all the way over to the left entering 7? All that, and I'm no expert.
Brian Till video lap from Mid Ohio web page located under the tab "About Us"
https://www.midohio.com/About-Us/A-L...Mid-Ohio-Track
Brian Till video lap from Mid Ohio web page located under the tab "About Us"
https://www.midohio.com/About-Us/A-L...Mid-Ohio-Track
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Alan,
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Jason,
Thanks I will work on your suggestions
Sig_a,
I worked with the Mid-Ohio instuctors a few years ago, they teach an early apex at 7 with hard acceleration to the bottom of 8, hard brake into 8, which in their opinion is a throw away corner. Allows for later braking into 7 more speed 7 to 8 and no loss in 8 which is a relatively slow corner already.
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Kuhmo Victoracers
Jason,
Thanks I will work on your suggestions
Sig_a,
I worked with the Mid-Ohio instuctors a few years ago, they teach an early apex at 7 with hard acceleration to the bottom of 8, hard brake into 8, which in their opinion is a throw away corner. Allows for later braking into 7 more speed 7 to 8 and no loss in 8 which is a relatively slow corner already.
Thanks
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I don't agree that 8 is a throwaway corner at all. The faster you get through 8, the quicker you get to 11 (or is it 12?). Check out my enduro from last year. There is a little water running through the chicane, and at the inside of 8, but it should be representative.
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I don't agree that 8 is a throwaway corner at all. The faster you get through 8, the quicker you get to 11 (or is it 12?). Check out my enduro from last year. There is a little water running through the chicane, and at the inside of 8, but it should be representative.
RDL is referring to turn 8 which is the left hander that goes up on entry and down on exit. The entry to this turn is a throw away due to all the speed you can carry through turn 7, the right hander at the end of the backstretch.
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Alan,
Kuhmo Victoracers
Jason,
Thanks I will work on your suggestions
Sig_a,
I worked with the Mid-Ohio instuctors a few years ago, they teach an early apex at 7 with hard acceleration to the bottom of 8, hard brake into 8, which in their opinion is a throw away corner. Allows for later braking into 7 more speed 7 to 8 and no loss in 8 which is a relatively slow corner already.
Thanks
Kuhmo Victoracers
Jason,
Thanks I will work on your suggestions
Sig_a,
I worked with the Mid-Ohio instuctors a few years ago, they teach an early apex at 7 with hard acceleration to the bottom of 8, hard brake into 8, which in their opinion is a throw away corner. Allows for later braking into 7 more speed 7 to 8 and no loss in 8 which is a relatively slow corner already.
Thanks
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Larry, you're referring to turn 9, the right hander with the puddle at the apex in your video. This turn IS critical as you carry all the speed from here up through the esses to the braking zone for turn 11.
RDL is referring to turn 8 which is the left hander that goes up on entry and down on exit. The entry to this turn is a throw away due to all the speed you can carry through turn 7, the right hander at the end of the backstretch.
RDL is referring to turn 8 which is the left hander that goes up on entry and down on exit. The entry to this turn is a throw away due to all the speed you can carry through turn 7, the right hander at the end of the backstretch.
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You're apexing earlier than I have at 7, but it looks like something I want to try. I've experimented with gear selection in 7 (the Esses). Some drivers tell me they hunker down into 2nd and upshift after 8 while going under the bridge. I've tried but I'm not sure it's helping my speed. Seems I'm a little bogged down.
I know I can't compare my gears with other setups, but what I'm asking is.... are y'all using the same low gear you use on the Keyhole and Carousel in the Esses?
While I'm at it, I'll ask the same of turn 11 (turn before Thunder Valley straight). I've never tried to gear down there, I think I'm carrying too much speed... but I feel anemic going into Thunder Valley sometimes.
Thanks... and thanks for the video, RDL. I'll use it to prepare for the MORPCA May 15-17 DE.
Add: I watched the video again, very educational for a novice like me. You apex on 6 much earlier than I have and that's setting you up for the earlier apex on 7. Looks smooth. I'm gonna try it (don't tell my instructors, and hey, Frank, you didn't read it here)
I know I can't compare my gears with other setups, but what I'm asking is.... are y'all using the same low gear you use on the Keyhole and Carousel in the Esses?
While I'm at it, I'll ask the same of turn 11 (turn before Thunder Valley straight). I've never tried to gear down there, I think I'm carrying too much speed... but I feel anemic going into Thunder Valley sometimes.
Thanks... and thanks for the video, RDL. I'll use it to prepare for the MORPCA May 15-17 DE.
Add: I watched the video again, very educational for a novice like me. You apex on 6 much earlier than I have and that's setting you up for the earlier apex on 7. Looks smooth. I'm gonna try it (don't tell my instructors, and hey, Frank, you didn't read it here)
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I've experimented with gear selection in 7 (the Esses). Some drivers tell me they hunker it down into 2nd there and upshift after 8 while going under the bridge. I've tried that but I'm not sure it's speeding me up. Seems I'm a little bogged down.
I know I can't compare my gears with other setups, but what I'm asking is.... are y'all using the same low gear you use on the Keyhole and Carousel in the Esses?
While I'm at it, I'll ask the same of turn 11 (turn before Thunder Valley straight). I've never tried to gear down there, I think I'm carrying too much speed... but I feel anemic going into Thunder Valley sometimes.
Thanks... and thanks for the video, RDL. I'll use it to prepare for the MORPCA May 15-17 DE. I can't wait!
I know I can't compare my gears with other setups, but what I'm asking is.... are y'all using the same low gear you use on the Keyhole and Carousel in the Esses?
While I'm at it, I'll ask the same of turn 11 (turn before Thunder Valley straight). I've never tried to gear down there, I think I'm carrying too much speed... but I feel anemic going into Thunder Valley sometimes.
Thanks... and thanks for the video, RDL. I'll use it to prepare for the MORPCA May 15-17 DE. I can't wait!
I don't downshift for 11 in either car. It upsets the car too much. It is much easier to push closer to redline, tap the brake, and get back on the throttle and upshift at exit.
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