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Old 05-25-2009, 09:28 PM
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Looks good to me. LIkely that E is in the faster group bc of the # of cars.
Old 05-25-2009, 09:39 PM
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Did someone say that SP and the rest of the Green sprint have a split start?
Old 05-25-2009, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp
Did someone say that SP and the rest of the Green sprint have a split start?

That is what i heard and it is the reason why i believe the SP cars should be paired with a faster run group. The way it is at the moment, they will get bundled up with the slower cars of the Green group really quick. That could be prevented by having them run in the Blue group and send the E cars in Green.
Old 05-25-2009, 10:18 PM
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FredC: Your idea just changes who runs into who. If you ran SP1-3 with FGH, the fast cars in FGH will start lapping the SP2 guys in a few laps.

If the fast cars in SP2/3 are faster than D then the SP2/3 group should start first.
Old 05-25-2009, 10:21 PM
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So how does the split start work? It would seem that you can't really have a wave-off by the starter. Do they just black flag those who jump the start, or is that only in theory?
Old 05-25-2009, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian P
So how does the split start work? It would seem that you can't really have a wave-off by the starter. Do they just black flag those who jump the start, or is that only in theory?
They had two pace cars at Mid Ohio but in Atlanta they were right behind the back of the main pack. The two pace cars works better IMO.
Old 05-25-2009, 10:35 PM
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NASA does it kind of cool. The first group does a standing start and the 2nd group has a pace car and does a rolling start.
Old 05-25-2009, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo951
Run groups are on ClubRegistration.com
Pretty much what was expected for the enduro, eh?







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Old 05-25-2009, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris M.
They had two pace cars at Mid Ohio but in Atlanta they were right behind the back of the main pack. The two pace cars works better IMO.
I'm pretty sure they had two pace cars at Road Atlanta.

PS: Chris, did you spin in the 2nd Sprint Race at Mid-Ohio? If so, I was the red 944 Turbo that was right behind you.
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Originally Posted by Brian P
So how does the split start work? It would seem that you can't really have a wave-off by the starter. Do they just black flag those who jump the start, or is that only in theory?
They do it just like the pros. There are two pace cars, and they try to keep the two groups separated by 30 seconds or so. And yes, once the first group goes green the 2nd group is commited to go green.
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Has anyone seen a schedule yet?
Old 05-26-2009, 12:00 AM
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Agree with Fred C.... probably better to have the SP cars moved into Blue group and E cars into Green group. (my 2 cents)

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Originally Posted by Arkadi
Has anyone seen a schedule yet?
http://zone1.pca.org/clash09-schedule-2pgs.pdf
Old 05-26-2009, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo951
FredC: Your idea just changes who runs into who. If you ran SP1-3 with FGH, the fast cars in FGH will start lapping the SP2 guys in a few laps.

If the fast cars in SP2/3 are faster than D then the SP2/3 group should start first.
Few laps is better than 1 and 1/2 lap. That's my point. I think the faster SP3 guys will run into A and B cars at T1 on lap 2. Sucks given that they are trying to have a race that counts for Cup IMHO. Anyway, i guess it is what it is, so on to racing!!!
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That's my point. I think the faster SP3 guys will run into A and B cars at T1 on lap 2
If SP starts second it shouldn't be too bad. There are 30-ish non-SP cars and 25 SP cars. Based on qual times from last year SP3 won't catch the front 10-15 D cars at all. SP2 mixes pretty well with mid-pack C & D cars. If they space the SP start far enough back (1/2 lap ??) it'll take the fast SP3 guys 3-4 laps to get into the thick of the Green backmarkers and at that they'll only need to work their way through 15 or so cars until they are with similar pace GT, C, & D cars.


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