Anyone want to see how a GT3 Cup is REALLY meant to be driven?
11-19-2008, 02:49 PM
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This is exactly how I explain it.
11-19-2008, 10:14 PM
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I'd rather row down through the gears than to need to perform some MASSIVE rev blip at the end of a braking zone because my car is in 6th gear at 1000 RPM and I need to downshift into 2rd at 5500 RPM. Much easier to make small blips as you go down through the gears while keeping even braking pressure IMO.
11-19-2008, 10:35 PM
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And here's a video to show that there are no definites in driving fast.
McNish is super smooth with minimal hand movement here rattling off a 1:48 at Road America.
You don't 'have' to be busy to make the car smooth. Certain cars and certain drivers are much busier than others and achieve similar results.
McNish is super smooth with minimal hand movement here rattling off a 1:48 at Road America.
You don't 'have' to be busy to make the car smooth. Certain cars and certain drivers are much busier than others and achieve similar results.
11-19-2008, 10:39 PM
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And here's a video to show that there are no definites in driving.
McNish is super smooth with minimal hand movement here rattling off a 1:48 at Road America.
You don't 'have' to be busy to make the car smooth. Certain cars and certain drivers are much busier than others and achieve similar results.
McNish is super smooth with minimal hand movement here rattling off a 1:48 at Road America.
You don't 'have' to be busy to make the car smooth. Certain cars and certain drivers are much busier than others and achieve similar results.
11-19-2008, 10:58 PM
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You do realize that a number of the things you listed actually make a car have a much tighter/finer "edge" to drive at. Moreso than a production based car.
11-20-2008, 12:02 AM
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That's my point, obviously there are going to be less inputs in an R10, it's far more like a formula car, but we were talking about production based cars......
11-20-2008, 01:31 AM
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I agree. He is not in the turns long enough to be "busy".
Ever see Auberlen work a Bmw at laguna or sears? you can see his elbows flying around the car from the stands.
Put him in a "Busy" car and watch the show, like in an RSR at the "Ring" or someplace like that.
I have always liked this footage at Sebring!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSJIsac2Mo4
perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL-P0...eature=related
or bryan Herta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKinhULILyI&NR=1
He is very smooth, but those cars are WAY different than a GT car!
mk
Ever see Auberlen work a Bmw at laguna or sears? you can see his elbows flying around the car from the stands.
Put him in a "Busy" car and watch the show, like in an RSR at the "Ring" or someplace like that.
I have always liked this footage at Sebring!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSJIsac2Mo4
perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL-P0...eature=related
or bryan Herta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKinhULILyI&NR=1
He is very smooth, but those cars are WAY different than a GT car!
mk
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11-20-2008, 03:07 AM
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Well if needed I can go from 5th into 2nd. They can't. I'm not being too serious about this point and as I said, I'd love a sequential but I would say that is the only possible drawback of that transmission...and that it costs a small fortune...and that they're not rated to hold over a certain tq/hp level....but I still want one.
11-20-2008, 10:57 AM
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And here's a video to show that there are no definites in driving fast.
McNish is super smooth with minimal hand movement here rattling off a 1:48 at Road America.
You don't 'have' to be busy to make the car smooth. Certain cars and certain drivers are much busier than others and achieve similar results.
McNish is super smooth with minimal hand movement here rattling off a 1:48 at Road America.
You don't 'have' to be busy to make the car smooth. Certain cars and certain drivers are much busier than others and achieve similar results.
sure they can...5-4-3-2....i've always preferred rowing the gears on (multiple gear) downshifts, it's not a hard thing to do...not sure about porsches, but it's pretty easy to miss-shift in bmws...
11-20-2008, 12:53 PM
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They area a bit quicker but not a whole lot. In my formula car the degree of input through turn 1 at VIR isn't too different than it is in my wife's Mini. Yes he is making corrections but he's making them earlier and because of that they are smaller. Many of the ones you are seeing midcorner are feedback bumps from pavement imperfections, etc. You see those movements down the straight as well.
I posted the video to illustrate a point that to drive a car fast doesnt' mean you have to be working the wheel through the turn. There are no absolutes in how to drive a car fast.
11-20-2008, 01:18 PM
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Same with the pcar...I use my gear box. miss shift=tow back
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11-20-2008, 01:25 PM
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