Lightening PCA CR......any news?......
09-20-2008, 10:04 AM
#136
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Keep in mind though, the reason to go out-in-out is to maximize the radius of a corner, minimizing scrub. Other factors like banking will modify that.
And a strictly semantic correction to an earlier comment here; outside is faster, inside is quicker.
And a strictly semantic correction to an earlier comment here; outside is faster, inside is quicker.
09-20-2008, 11:25 AM
#137
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This is why you might notice that I never went high (or even medium) to begin with. I was already in tight and never had to add increased steering input to get to the apex. Frankly, I was applying my lessons learned from Daytona to the Lightbulb, but will admit there is quite a bit of difference. Perhaps think Carousel (outer loop) at Watkins Glen vs. Lightbulb, another high speed highly cambered turn. How do you drive that?
09-21-2008, 05:05 PM
#138
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Interesting comments regarding the best line into the lightbulb turn. The out-in-out seemed the fastest and most efficient but without a data read I can't prove it. I do know that having at least 2/3 throttle 1/2 way just prior to the apex and full thru track out seemed to provide the biggest gap to those behind me. I look forward to someone sharing data proving what is truly the fastest line....
Driving a F stock car requires me to maintain as much momentum as possible entering the front straight.
Driving a F stock car requires me to maintain as much momentum as possible entering the front straight.
09-21-2008, 07:49 PM
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09-21-2008, 08:32 PM
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Interesting comments regarding the best line into the lightbulb turn. The out-in-out seemed the fastest and most efficient but without a data read I can't prove it. I do know that having at least 2/3 throttle 1/2 way just prior to the apex and full thru track out seemed to provide the biggest gap to those behind me. I look forward to someone sharing data proving what is truly the fastest line....
Driving a F stock car requires me to maintain as much momentum as possible entering the front straight.
Driving a F stock car requires me to maintain as much momentum as possible entering the front straight.
09-21-2008, 08:42 PM
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Check that clip I posted and you'll see that I was outpowered but not outpaced. Firehawk and I also spent a fair amount of time together, but I think we'd have had better racing in the group with the E Class cars.
09-21-2008, 10:45 PM
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09-22-2008, 12:15 AM
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For what it is worth, I am constantly evaluating the scrubbing vs. distance argument (did a lot of years of autocrossing) and I didn't think I was turning very hard to make the apex. Of course, most have called my line into and through the Lightbulb unorthodox, so I could be wrong. Data would help figure this out, but I have none.
We are not in DE anymore. Yes they are all momentum cars!!!!! If you are not stuffing it into the corner you are probably going too slow. IMHO
09-22-2008, 12:22 AM
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09-22-2008, 09:52 AM
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09-22-2008, 11:51 AM
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Bull,
Of course it's all relative. I'm sure Alonso and Hamilton are out there hoping Kimi (or whichever Ferrari driving is leading the race) has a hiccup. And, there's really no such thing as a "momentum car". Assuming that the idea of racing anything is to get around the track faster than everyone else, a disruption of (forward) momentum ain't good.
Still, there is always the need to slow the car and to regain velocity, so I understand what Joe (our Firehawk friend) was describing too, and there's no need, really, to be reminded here that all racers seek to maximize exit speed to the end.
Of course it's all relative. I'm sure Alonso and Hamilton are out there hoping Kimi (or whichever Ferrari driving is leading the race) has a hiccup. And, there's really no such thing as a "momentum car". Assuming that the idea of racing anything is to get around the track faster than everyone else, a disruption of (forward) momentum ain't good.
Still, there is always the need to slow the car and to regain velocity, so I understand what Joe (our Firehawk friend) was describing too, and there's no need, really, to be reminded here that all racers seek to maximize exit speed to the end.