View Poll Results: Would you build a 996 Spec if this became a PCA Class?
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Would you build a 996 Spec?
07-13-2008, 04:43 PM
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I think the reason they are doing it around early Carreras are they are worth 1/2 of a new Cayman, if that.
07-13-2008, 04:56 PM
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You can buy a 996 for ~$20k.
07-13-2008, 05:36 PM
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GT3 Wheels are very expensive vs standard Porsche wheels which everyone looks to sell. We would like to stay with the 245/275 tire sizes.
Yeah, we all like the GT3 wing and the "Baby Cup" look, but that would add $2k to the build cost. (I love that look, so it's still on the table)
3.6's would go to GTB, which is essentially a similar spec when you look at the Koni rules.
Yeah, we all like the GT3 wing and the "Baby Cup" look, but that would add $2k to the build cost. (I love that look, so it's still on the table)
3.6's would go to GTB, which is essentially a similar spec when you look at the Koni rules.
actually, with the way my car is building out, i would just do GTB. i like modding too much
. what's the minimum weight in GTB. i thought koni cars are 3000# with 245/275 slicks.not sure if you can get to 2850# with driver without spending some $$$. the car would need to be around 2550~2600#s... that's lighter than a gt3 cup no?CF/doors, would definitely be in order.
07-13-2008, 05:42 PM
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Dell, you are absolutely right on tire wear and it was your report that actually made me jump the boat and go with Nitto but as for my 996, I think 11s with 315s is a little overkill for a regular 320HP 996. It wouldn't be hard convincing myself to go with 315 if I had a GT3.
07-13-2008, 05:46 PM
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Too much air.
07-13-2008, 05:46 PM
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I would get rid of the double adjustable socks. They add cost and too many variables on a stock class. I would spec spring rates and available shocks to be used. I would also spec the LSD to a cheap reliable unit... The less mods the more sense a spec class makes and its more attractive. Just the double adjustables would run you into some serious dow...
07-13-2008, 06:01 PM
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Maybe but I'm also trying to convince myself not to spend on another set of wheels.
07-13-2008, 06:12 PM
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07-13-2008, 06:20 PM
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What a dumb idea. 
j/k of course. A couple of comments.
One of the benefits of creating this class would be to make a cost effective way to race modern rear engine cars. Hence among other things specifying a longer life tire. Going to wider wheels & tires bumps the cost up. Yes, not that much, but if you start adding a bit here and there, you end up running up the costs. I think this would be particularly important on consumables like tires.
As far as the 3.6l cars, it seems like it would muddy the water a bit by running two different engines (and whatever else comes with the later model 996). I suppose it could be handled with weight differentials, but still it could get messy.
j/k of course. A couple of comments.
One of the benefits of creating this class would be to make a cost effective way to race modern rear engine cars. Hence among other things specifying a longer life tire. Going to wider wheels & tires bumps the cost up. Yes, not that much, but if you start adding a bit here and there, you end up running up the costs. I think this would be particularly important on consumables like tires.
As far as the 3.6l cars, it seems like it would muddy the water a bit by running two different engines (and whatever else comes with the later model 996). I suppose it could be handled with weight differentials, but still it could get messy.
07-13-2008, 06:24 PM
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I would get rid of the double adjustable socks. They add cost and too many variables on a stock class. I would spec spring rates and available shocks to be used. I would also spec the LSD to a cheap reliable unit... The less mods the more sense a spec class makes and its more attractive. Just the double adjustables would run you into some serious dow...
Shocks are certainly an issue right now. I'm thinking about trying out Cross Competition in mine. Much less expensive than Motons, and they can handle fairly stout springs. Wondering if anyone has experience with the Cross kit in a 996?
07-13-2008, 07:24 PM
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I would get rid of the double adjustable socks. They add cost and too many variables on a stock class. I would spec spring rates and available shocks to be used. I would also spec the LSD to a cheap reliable unit... The less mods the more sense a spec class makes and its more attractive. Just the double adjustables would run you into some serious dow...
Most '99's came stock with LSD's, so a cheap (relative) factory LSD option is available to everyone.
It's basically price point. Boxster Spec is in the $25 - 35k bracket and the Spec 996 would be in the $40 - 50K bracket. An absolutely identicle spec would put the two in competition with one another which is what we don't want.
As for tires, most people drastically "over tire" their cars. Remember, DOT track tires offer more grip than street tires so you do not need as wide of a tire to get greater grip. A Cup Car puts more than 300 hp to the ground and runs something close to a 305 width. Putting 250 to the ground with a 315 tire is too much tire. Don't forget the additional weight of the wheel and tire and its impact on acceleration.
As for 3.6, if you read the PCA rules, you can prepare that car to Koni rules and have a class to run in vs other 3.6's in GTB
07-13-2008, 07:48 PM
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it is rare for a a 99 996 to come with LSD. it was an option with traction control. mine doesn't have one. maintenance on the the oem LSD could be pricey as they are a wear item and, even if a 99 car had LSD, it would definitely be shot right now. don't need it. the 996 can put the power down quite well.
i still disagree about the tire widths. it's not only about HP, it also about corner speed. if you can "scrub" wider tires enough to get them to temp then the car is not over tired. remember a cup car s 2600# and the 996 is 3000.
i still disagree about the tire widths. it's not only about HP, it also about corner speed. if you can "scrub" wider tires enough to get them to temp then the car is not over tired. remember a cup car s 2600# and the 996 is 3000.
The idea of double adjustable shocks was for this to be a step up from Boxster Spec, where you don't have the adjustability. CROSS or K&W shocks are cheap, and the difference between PSS9's and Moton's are about $2,500 from what we've been able to find. (PSS9's about $2K - Motons $4,500)
Most '99's came stock with LSD's, so a cheap (relative) factory LSD option is available to everyone.
It's basically price point. Boxster Spec is in the $25 - 35k bracket and the Spec 996 would be in the $40 - 50K bracket. An absolutely identicle spec would put the two in competition with one another which is what we don't want.
As for tires, most people drastically "over tire" their cars. Remember, DOT track tires offer more grip than street tires so you do not need as wide of a tire to get greater grip. A Cup Car puts more than 300 hp to the ground and runs something close to a 305 width. Putting 250 to the ground with a 315 tire is too much tire. Don't forget the additional weight of the wheel and tire and its impact on acceleration.
As for 3.6, if you read the PCA rules, you can prepare that car to Koni rules and have a class to run in vs other 3.6's in GTB
Most '99's came stock with LSD's, so a cheap (relative) factory LSD option is available to everyone.
It's basically price point. Boxster Spec is in the $25 - 35k bracket and the Spec 996 would be in the $40 - 50K bracket. An absolutely identicle spec would put the two in competition with one another which is what we don't want.
As for tires, most people drastically "over tire" their cars. Remember, DOT track tires offer more grip than street tires so you do not need as wide of a tire to get greater grip. A Cup Car puts more than 300 hp to the ground and runs something close to a 305 width. Putting 250 to the ground with a 315 tire is too much tire. Don't forget the additional weight of the wheel and tire and its impact on acceleration.
As for 3.6, if you read the PCA rules, you can prepare that car to Koni rules and have a class to run in vs other 3.6's in GTB