Close call at Sebring
04-16-2008, 11:37 AM
#61
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I have run a lot of Chin and they do a great job. The only other group that I really like is Seat Time which only runs @ Roebling Road.
I got signed off @ Chin my 1st day BUT I already had 5 days @ Sebring and I had to do a check ride with a Master Instructor. I am still in the Solo group and event though we do sometimes get trains, they usually clear up for a faster car within a lap. One thing with Chin if I am going to do just 1 day I always go on Sunday as the last sessions have almost no cars as everybody has had more than enough time.
Juha,
If I have my GT3 there and Ian is along you are welcome to ride in the right seat. I probably won't be back @ Sebring until Dec with Chin.
Peter
I got signed off @ Chin my 1st day BUT I already had 5 days @ Sebring and I had to do a check ride with a Master Instructor. I am still in the Solo group and event though we do sometimes get trains, they usually clear up for a faster car within a lap. One thing with Chin if I am going to do just 1 day I always go on Sunday as the last sessions have almost no cars as everybody has had more than enough time.
Juha,
If I have my GT3 there and Ian is along you are welcome to ride in the right seat. I probably won't be back @ Sebring until Dec with Chin.
Peter
04-16-2008, 11:44 AM
#62
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I have run a lot of Chin and they do a great job. The only other group that I really like is Seat Time which only runs @ Roebling Road.
I got signed off @ Chin my 1st day BUT I already had 5 days @ Sebring and I had to do a check ride with a Master Instructor. I am still in the Solo group and event though we do sometimes get trains, they usually clear up for a faster car within a lap. One thing with Chin if I am going to do just 1 day I always go on Sunday as the last sessions have almost no cars as everybody has had more than enough time.
Juha,
If I have my GT3 there and Ian is along you are welcome to ride in the right seat. I probably won't be back @ Sebring until Dec with Chin.
Peter
I got signed off @ Chin my 1st day BUT I already had 5 days @ Sebring and I had to do a check ride with a Master Instructor. I am still in the Solo group and event though we do sometimes get trains, they usually clear up for a faster car within a lap. One thing with Chin if I am going to do just 1 day I always go on Sunday as the last sessions have almost no cars as everybody has had more than enough time.
Juha,
If I have my GT3 there and Ian is along you are welcome to ride in the right seat. I probably won't be back @ Sebring until Dec with Chin.
Peter
Thanks for the offer and I would be happy to take you up on it!
I take it Ian is the driver in the video you posted?
04-16-2008, 11:55 AM
#64
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He has been co driving my GT3 for 3 years in SCCA AutoX and is the 2007 SCCA Solo/Pro Solo National Champion in Super Stock and was voted Solo Driver of the Year for 2007. I am in awe every time I ride with him. He is counter steering before I even feel the car begin to slide.Peter
04-16-2008, 12:03 PM
#65
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Yes that is Ian driving. He has been co driving my GT3 for 3 years in SCCA AutoX and is the 2007 SCCA Solo/Pro Solo National Champion in Super Stock and was voted Solo Driver of the Year for 2007. I am in awe every time I ride with him. He is counter steering before I even feel the car begin to slide.
Peter
He has been co driving my GT3 for 3 years in SCCA AutoX and is the 2007 SCCA Solo/Pro Solo National Champion in Super Stock and was voted Solo Driver of the Year for 2007. I am in awe every time I ride with him. He is counter steering before I even feel the car begin to slide.Peter
Congrats Juha on the 993. We miss you over on the GT3 boards...
Now the trick that I use to prevent my wife from "hanging me up by my *****" is to head to the office to catch up on work on both Saturday and Sunday. I then forward all office calls to the cell phone.... So far, so good..... Keeping the GT3 at the track makes this whole effort quite painless...
(Now if I could convince our 9 year old son to keep a secret, I'd have a Ducati at the track as well. If my wife found out - my life would be over....)
-Blake
Now the trick that I use to prevent my wife from "hanging me up by my *****" is to head to the office to catch up on work on both Saturday and Sunday. I then forward all office calls to the cell phone.... So far, so good..... Keeping the GT3 at the track makes this whole effort quite painless...
(Now if I could convince our 9 year old son to keep a secret, I'd have a Ducati at the track as well. If my wife found out - my life would be over....)
-Blake
Oh, and I will be back at the GT3 boards. I just need to get good (or stupid) enough so I don't fear wrecking an expensive GT car at the track...
04-16-2008, 12:41 PM
#66
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Yes , might make the run , what about Petu ?
How are you going to wreck a GT 3 from the hotel room , OHHHH, i get it , wreck a GT3 so that's what you call it ......
Nice!! It's amazing how wrong idea you can get watching a video. To me his driving looked really nervous. And the non-stabilized image just made it look worse. I'll look him up when I get to Sebring!
Yeah, that works, until she overhears the Porsches tearing it up on the main straightaway...
Oh, and I will be back at the GT3 boards. I just need to get good (or stupid) enough so I don't fear wrecking an expensive GT car at the track...
Yeah, that works, until she overhears the Porsches tearing it up on the main straightaway...
Oh, and I will be back at the GT3 boards. I just need to get good (or stupid) enough so I don't fear wrecking an expensive GT car at the track...
How are you going to wreck a GT 3 from the hotel room , OHHHH, i get it , wreck a GT3
so that's what you call it ......
04-16-2008, 12:43 PM
#67
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Nice!! It's amazing how wrong idea you can get watching a video. To me his driving looked really nervous. And the non-stabilized image just made it look worse. I'll look him up when I get to Sebring!
Yeah, that works, until she overhears the Porsches tearing it up on the main straightaway...
Oh, and I will be back at the GT3 boards. I just need to get good (or stupid) enough so I don't fear wrecking an expensive GT car at the track...
Yeah, that works, until she overhears the Porsches tearing it up on the main straightaway...
Oh, and I will be back at the GT3 boards. I just need to get good (or stupid) enough so I don't fear wrecking an expensive GT car at the track...
Look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73MvmT5C-ik Peter
04-16-2008, 01:51 PM
#69
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04-16-2008, 03:21 PM
#71
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It took about 25 track days in my highly modified E46 M3 before I felt comfortable taking the GT3 to the track and then I immediately added the rear toe links and Motons to correct it's nervousness on the track. The M3 is still going to be my primary track car with the GT3 coming out once in a while. Peter
-Blake
04-17-2008, 11:11 PM
#73
Chin runs great events, I was at Sebring with them this past Sunday in a blue Cooper S. I watched the GT3 mishap from the front straight, and upon seeing no carnage, I was pretty amazed.
04-18-2008, 09:12 AM
#75
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Ah yes, the old DE mantra; a "very mildly modified 993 that has 100hp less". And exactly how was that 2:26 timed? Rod Johnson, who is a pretty fast clubracer in his 993 RSCS on Hoosiers ran a low 2:27 in the club race this past February. Was this mildly modified 993 the equal to a PCA stock class 993 RSCS racecar? If so, that driver was smoking fast, and should be racing because he would clean house every time. More likely the time is BS or the car is way faster than a 993 RSCS.
Not to get too off topic here, but don't compare race cars to DE cars. Many DE cars are modified way beyond what PCA stock or prepared rules will allow, and as such cannot be the basis of an intelligent comparison.
Not to get too off topic here, but don't compare race cars to DE cars. Many DE cars are modified way beyond what PCA stock or prepared rules will allow, and as such cannot be the basis of an intelligent comparison.
Larry,
I wasn't comparing race cars to DE cars. The GT3 is a street car and so is the 993.
The driver of the 993 is fast and you probably know him, he's my friend Petu "Flying Finn" Kummala. He used a proper lap timer and even with a 1 second error margin, he's between 2:25 - 2:27,
The 993 has modified exhaust, partly stripped interior, full cage, recaro seats, PSS9's, stock brakes, stock engine, Pilot sport cups. That's it. Car weighed around 2900lbs with 1/2 tank gas.
I couldn't find the video for the 2:26 lap but here's a 2:30 lap from years back with the same car and driver (less modifications and more weight), notice how calm Petu is (not wawing his hands around the cockpit, unless absolutely necessary):
And I agree, he should be racing!
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/P...993_157595.htm
I wasn't comparing race cars to DE cars. The GT3 is a street car and so is the 993.
The driver of the 993 is fast and you probably know him, he's my friend Petu "Flying Finn" Kummala. He used a proper lap timer and even with a 1 second error margin, he's between 2:25 - 2:27,
The 993 has modified exhaust, partly stripped interior, full cage, recaro seats, PSS9's, stock brakes, stock engine, Pilot sport cups. That's it. Car weighed around 2900lbs with 1/2 tank gas.
I couldn't find the video for the 2:26 lap but here's a 2:30 lap from years back with the same car and driver (less modifications and more weight), notice how calm Petu is (not wawing his hands around the cockpit, unless absolutely necessary):
And I agree, he should be racing!
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/P...993_157595.htm
EDIT: My best time was actually 2:26.91 and it was with Kumho V710s (18" 245 & 285). I timed it with the Loncrace (sp?) lap timer.
2.29 was with MPSCs (17" 225 & 255), mods etc. are as Juha lists. There's no video of the 2.26 lap on-line because while I have it (on DVD), I don't know how to post it on-line. If anyone can help, let me know.
I would love to try go around Sebring with RSCS or GT3 cup. Anyone wants to borrow one?
Pretty please with the sugar on the top... Racing? I miss racing (from my MX days) and I'd love to race GT cars but there ain't teams calling me and I don't have enough $$$$ to go on my own.
Petu's timer is modified to read 3-5 seconds quicker, don't believe what is being said gents, as the finns are already drunk by mid afternoon and juha can't see everything from his hotel room besides there has never been a fast finn who's last name did not end with an en ( Makkinen, Raikkonen, Hakkinen etc) 
Now Kummala Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee ! that's Finnish for some slow Gay guy with hockey puck damage
and my bottle of Finlandia.....
besides there has never been a fast finn who's last name did not end with an en ( Makkinen, Raikkonen, Hakkinen etc) Now Kummala Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee ! that's Finnish for some slow Gay guy with hockey puck damage
and my bottle of Finlandia.....
I agree there are a lot of "nen" Finns who are quick but what about Mikkola, Salo, Rosberg, Palttala, Jarvilehto (that's J.J.), Alen & others.
As Juha said, I'm sure there will be beers! Juha might be actually a Swede based on his drinking problems though...
Video: That really was a close call! Seemed that the guy accelerated really fast even though was pretty wide. Then the tail started to step out and he over corrected it. Great save after that, many would've hit the wall after over correction.
The other video with the fast GT3 was good, nice little slide on T5, ne "sawed" but I do that quite a lot also when on the limit. And as Leh shows, it's rarely very clean from inside. Most of the time looks clean from outside though.
Last edited by Flying Finn; 05-06-2008 at 09:49 AM.