boqueron

I am considering to buy a 968 or a 944 Turbo race car only to be used for racing. In my country - Spain - they will be racing in the same category.

I am aware of the results of the 968's in racing, but there are only a couple of 944's Turbo racing in Spain, and they do not seem to outperform the 944's. It's difficult to judge as it I really do not know if the tuning of both type of cars has been performed at the same level of excellence and the drivers ability is also not equal...

I would like the forum opinion and help basically on 968 vs 944 turbo:

1.- Performance
2.- Reliability
3.- Maintenance costs.

Thanks in advance for your help..

boqueron

I wanted to say : and they do not seem to outperform the 968's

M758

It all depends on the prep level.

It is much easier to get hp from the 944 Turbo. Remember however the chassis and tubs are basicly the same so the cornering & braking is equal on both cars. Most places 944 Turbo and 968's compete together is in PCA stock class racing. There I believe that the 968 may have some advantages due to specific rules limitations applied to both cars. That is why I believe that know rules and prep are required before we can decide one is better than the other.

The only Major differece betweent the cars is 3.0L vs 2.5L Turbo. And 6spd vs 5spds. Beyond that everything is a detail difference which may or may not apply depending on class rules/allowances.

Ray S

Does your series allow engine and ECU mods or do you have to keep the cars stock?

Jim Child

I've raced against more 944 Turbos than I can count, but I need more information to answer your question. Are you talking about a regular 944 turbo, or a Turbo S? What sort of modifications do the rules allow? If mods are unlimited, then the 944 Turbo can be made much faster than the 968. If the rules constrain the mods, then a 968 will usually be faster than a regular 944 Turbo, but not quite as fast as a 944 Turbo S.

As far as reliability goes, the 968 probably has the advantage. Turbo cars have an extra set of things that can go wrong that NA cars don't have to worry about. Maintenance might be slightly less for the 968 for the same reason.

trackjunky

See my signature/avitar. I sold that car. There's your answer.

Any questions?

Mike in Chi

As always, Jim is on the money (pun intended)

We have too many friends who have spent race weekends chasing boost issues.
Or paying someone else to find it
When they are running 44 Turbos are fast. But who wants to spend the weekend looking for ac gremlin...

boqueron

Well , thank you all.

After reading your answers ( ecu mod is allowed ) It's clear to me that 944 turbo will be faster but far less reliable. ( 4 out of 5 answers comment on reliability ).

Racing is so extremely expensive in my country that a reasonable reliability is a most. The most expensive race is the one that you can not race...after having paid everything and everybody...

I will concentrate on a 968 racer...

Larry Herman

Good luck with it Harry. I think that you will enjoy it. 968s are great cars.

M758

Well I still would not come to that conclusions. Again what is allowed in the rules? You can make a boosted 944 Turbo reliable, but it takes work. Too many guys just turn up the boost and expect it to last. Then they run into issues. Again a 968 may be reliable, but giving up 50 hp to a 944 Turbo may mean it is always a back marker. A 968 can be as fast a 944 Turbo, but this depends on rules.

Gator_86_951

Edit:

Didn't read the part about ECU mod. Oops. I am with Joe on this one, depends on the extent of what ECU mod means.

mikew968

In PCA I would think a legal 944 t would be slower than a legal 968 with drivers of the same skill. It might depend on the track though. There is a video of a 944t pulling a S2 as well as a 944ts after the 944t pinched a corner. That was at RA this past summer. All 994t much not be created equal!!!!!


Mike

tkerrmd

I have been racing a 944S for two years now, no problems.
most affordable durable PCA racing you can do!!