Anyone here use left foot braking????
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Larry Herman
2016 Ford Transit Connect Titanium LWB
2018 Tesla Model 3 - Electricity can be fun!
Retired Club Racer & National PCA Instructor
Past Flames:
1994 RS America Club Racer
2004 GT3 Track Car
1984 911 Carrera Club Racer
1974 914/4 2.0 Track Car
CLICK HERE to see some of my ancient racing videos.
#33
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Whatever you say, sparky.
Where in Malvern do you live? My mom lives next to Applebrook Country Club.
Where in Malvern do you live? My mom lives next to Applebrook Country Club.
#35
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I grew up in Philly, then Ardmore. I live in Austin, Texas now.
#36
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I'll be the devil's advocate here. Plenty of drivers go very fast without ever left foot braking. When Schumacher & Barrichello were teammates, Michael would left foot brake & Rubens would not. True that Michael was usually faster, but personally I would love to be as slow as Rubens.
I remember reading about that when I first started, I think in one of the Ross Bently books and thought that it was pretty crazy that an F1 driver w/o a clutch wouldn't LFB.....and still be so fast. I remember the quote from RB, "I just can't get on with it." ...or something like that. "It" being LFB. If I had a Ferrari Challenge car I certainly would be LFBing, still amazing to me that one of their F1 drivers didn't....and still did very well.
I LFB in my street car, but still haven't gotten around to doing it on track since getting faster. I tried it once when I first started and stepped on the brake when I was going to shift and never got back to it. Maybe I'll give it a shot again at Summit (T4 and T6).
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I personally do not understand how anyone can fairly reject a technique until after they have fully mastered it. If you don't even try, or if you never get the hang of it, you will never know if you would have been faster had you mastered it. Just because you are very fast without using a technique does not mean that you would not be even faster with it.
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Left foot braking does take some learning and getting used to...BUT, it is well worth the effort.
To me, the biggest advantage is in keeping the car settled:
> in the transition from braking to throttle application
> going thru a chicane or dogleg corner, (eg.) transitioning the car from a "left lean" to a "right lean".....
> especially in the rain, again helping the car "transition"....
As for what vehicles I use this technique in..?? Everything from racecars, to my street Porsche, my street van, up to a Peterbuilt with a 13 speed.....
To me, the biggest advantage is in keeping the car settled:
> in the transition from braking to throttle application
> going thru a chicane or dogleg corner, (eg.) transitioning the car from a "left lean" to a "right lean".....
> especially in the rain, again helping the car "transition"....
As for what vehicles I use this technique in..?? Everything from racecars, to my street Porsche, my street van, up to a Peterbuilt with a 13 speed.....
#39
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I learned to LFB in an F150 tow vehicle. In my new F150 I don't think I've ever touched the brake with my right foot. There aren't too many high performance driving techniques you can practice while you're towing to the track, but this is one.
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Anyone used these techniques at Barber or Road Atlanta? If so which turns?
I am interested in giving it a shot, but turn 5 at RA is a high speed non shift corner for me, but it's is bit scary and prone to oversteer. Does LFB make you more prone to oversteer?
Also does it help against understeer, or is throttle steering better then.
I am interested in giving it a shot, but turn 5 at RA is a high speed non shift corner for me, but it's is bit scary and prone to oversteer. Does LFB make you more prone to oversteer?
Also does it help against understeer, or is throttle steering better then.
#43
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if you LFB on GT3 and find throttle cut out too abrupt, you are on brake too long imo.
also, if you search under "MDS" as poster, he posted ways to kill off 996gt3 fuel cut off wrt LFB.
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Anyone used these techniques at Barber or Road Atlanta? If so which turns?
I am interested in giving it a shot, but turn 5 at RA is a high speed non shift corner for me, but it's is bit scary and prone to oversteer. Does LFB make you more prone to oversteer?
Also does it help against understeer, or is throttle steering better then.
I am interested in giving it a shot, but turn 5 at RA is a high speed non shift corner for me, but it's is bit scary and prone to oversteer. Does LFB make you more prone to oversteer?
Also does it help against understeer, or is throttle steering better then.
Barber: 1, 7 (the right kink just before the "corkscrew"), 11, 15 if necessary
Road Atlanta (pre-repave): 2 if necessary, esses if necessary
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Be careful Paolo...practice in the paddock first. I find the pedals on my car pretty difficult to LFB with. In fact, I f'ed it up pretty good the first time I tried it on track. Give yourself plenty of time to get to the pedal because it won't be automatic like it is with your right foot. You might have to hunt a little to find it until it becomes natural and if you don't give yourself enough time you could miss your brake point. And, you'll find you don't have the same kind of sensitivity/ability to modulate with your left foot as you do with right until you practice some. You will tend to hit it like you would typically hit the clutch - hard and fast.