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Old 09-15-2007, 08:27 AM
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Driving a turbo is an experience that every driver should have. It is one more thing to learn. I know that racing my turbo for 2 years made me faster when I went back to NA.
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How does an F-class turbo walk-away from an S2 and an E-class turbo S that should have ~40 more hp?
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Originally Posted by mikew968
How does an F-class turbo walk-away from an S2 and an E-class turbo S that should have ~40 more hp?

Because you have "stock" and then you have STOCK
Old 09-17-2007, 05:11 PM
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I was hoping someone in the know could explain this stock and STOCK thing to me. I thought stock was created equal...or are some just more equal than others?

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25038513&hl=en
Video is crap, but this is a 2:13 in a stock 993tt @ WGI.
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I have pulled on these exact 944s the same way the white car did several times with my 996 GT3. It was no big deal.
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Originally Posted by DM993tt
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25038513&hl=en
Video is crap, but this is a 2:13 in a stock 993tt @ WGI.
Video no workie
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Originally Posted by mikew968
I was hoping someone in the know could explain this stock and STOCK thing to me. I thought stock was created equal...or are some just more equal than others?

Mike
There are 3 kinds of stock motors that I know of. Ones that are "as-built" and have never been opened up, ones that have been rebuilt to the exact specifications that the factory motors were supposed to be built to, and those that have been rebuilt in such a way that one cannot tell where they are different from stock, except that they pull like no stock motor can.
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
There are 3 kinds of stock motors that I know of. Ones that are "as-built" and have never been opened up, ones that have been rebuilt to the exact specifications that the factory motors were supposed to be built to, and those that have been rebuilt in such a way that one cannot tell where they are different from stock, except that they pull like no stock motor can.
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Which one is yours Larry?
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Originally Posted by Greg Fishman
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Which one is yours Larry?
I knew that some joker would ask if I did not volunteer it.

Type #2, rebuilt to the exact specifications that the factory motors were supposed to be built to. Just ask Chris Cervelli, he built it.
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
I knew that some joker would ask if I did not volunteer it.

Type #2, rebuilt to the exact specifications that the factory motors were supposed to be built to. Just ask Chris Cervelli, he built it.
Hmmm... I can see PCA Club Racing version of Formula 1's "Stepneygate" drama building up... "Cervelligate"...
Watch out Larry or your contructor's points will be taken away!!

Oh wait! Your constructor is Porsche and you're in Porsche Club Racing... They can't take everyone's constructor points away, or can they?!

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Originally Posted by spare tire
... with my 996 GT3. It was no big deal.
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
There are 3 kinds of stock motors that I know of. Ones that are "as-built" and have never been opened up, ones that have been rebuilt to the exact specifications that the factory motors were supposed to be built to, and those that have been rebuilt in such a way that one cannot tell where they are different from stock, except that they pull like no stock motor can.
I think there are 3 tyes of rebuilds:

Rebuilt to stock, no tricks
Rebuilt to stock, using all the tricks (in a 964, this means bring up to compression to spec)
Rebuilt to something other than stock.

I have personaly only ever seen one car that I thought was way too fast.
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Originally Posted by DM993tt
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25038513&hl=en
Video is crap, but this is a 2:13 in a stock 993tt @ WGI.
There is no way that is a stock supsension and street tires.
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I have personaly only ever seen one car that I thought was way too fast.
Colin,

Maybe you guys should take a closer look at the video that was posted then. I'm sorry, but we're not idiots, we've seen what that car did before the 'rebuild', we know that the driver didn't just get a testicular upgrade...something just doesn't quite compute. That red 944 is one of the best driven F cars out there - period. There's no way that with that poor an exit out of 3 that he could just literally drive around those two like they were autocross cones....and everyone who races knows that.

"Push to pass" is just not in the spirit of the club.

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