For those who have done indoor karting.....
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Originally Posted by mrbillfll
does a kart's (rear) live axle relate to a locked rear end in a car?
I've driven locked and LSD's, and it seems like the karts behave similarly to the welded rear end. (where you tend to throw the kart/car more in slow speed turns)
not sure any p-cars have welded gears.
do 944 racers weld their rear ends?
I've driven locked and LSD's, and it seems like the karts behave similarly to the welded rear end. (where you tend to throw the kart/car more in slow speed turns)
not sure any p-cars have welded gears.
do 944 racers weld their rear ends?
Look at even beat-up rental karts at an indoor place which get little setup tuning, and you will see the front kingpins raked dramatically rear-ward: lots of caster is built in to the chassis at the factory. They are so heavy that it is tough to tell, but if you turn the wheel while the kart is stationary you will perceive a little jacking on the side you are turned toward.
A kart that doesn't lift the inside rear will push right off the track. I'm not smart enough to know how this translates to understeer or oversteer results from a locker on a car, but I suspect whatever differences exist result from the other major distinction betw a kart and a car: the suspension. (ie the absence thereof on a kart...)
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Originally Posted by BrandonH
A kart that doesn't lift the inside rear will push right off the track. I'm not smart enough to know how this translates to understeer or oversteer results from a locker on a car, but I suspect whatever differences exist result from the other major distinction betw a kart and a car: the suspension. (ie the absence thereof on a kart...)
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Originally Posted by TD in DC
I'm not smart enough either, but if the kart is setup even nearly close enough so that it works with its absence of suspension, then you still deal with understeer and oversteer "while driving the kart" the same way, no?
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If you cant lift the inside rear on a kart, then you will have some serious understeer. In an oversteer situation, counter steering in addition to helping straighten the kart can drop the inside wheel back to the pavement. To me it seems kart tuning is almost backwards to tuning a car chassis. For example, on a kart if you put your ballast higher up you can get more inside lift and improve cornering.
Shifter karts are obviously the closest you can get to a car as there is easily enough power to require the driver to have good throttle control. 125cc Shifters also have 4 wheel disc brakes unlike the less powerful classes.
Shifter karts are obviously the closest you can get to a car as there is easily enough power to require the driver to have good throttle control. 125cc Shifters also have 4 wheel disc brakes unlike the less powerful classes.
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F1 Boston is a great place to keep your skills if not better them. Being a track junky like myself and having been to F1 a few (hehe) times its great. Track one you can keep your gas pedal to the floor all the way around other than th 180 coming down hill if you drift properly and manage your tires. Recommend it totally if $$$ allows. You can blow $100 real fast. Make sure you buy a F1 lic. not a day pass to save $$ and also get free guest passes etc. Good luck.
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It's not a Riesentöter event, but there will be around a dozen of us there on Saturday morning, the 16th and you are welcome to come race. (Note that this is a date change from Sunday, the 17th.) The thread is HERE. .
The track info is HERE.
The essential info is:
Saturday the 16th at 11 AM. This event will be for 3 heats plus membership (reduced rates for later events) at a cost of $55 per driver. Each heat is 8 minutes on track with about 2 minutes for staging on and off the track. Typically one runs one heat, takes two off, and runs the next one. The 20 minute intermission is useful to catch one's breath, talk smack, get a drink and the like. For three heats you would should allow at least 1¼ hours if we have 10 drivers. If we get more than 10 drivers the track should run our groups back to back.
The track info is HERE.
The essential info is:
Saturday the 16th at 11 AM. This event will be for 3 heats plus membership (reduced rates for later events) at a cost of $55 per driver. Each heat is 8 minutes on track with about 2 minutes for staging on and off the track. Typically one runs one heat, takes two off, and runs the next one. The 20 minute intermission is useful to catch one's breath, talk smack, get a drink and the like. For three heats you would should allow at least 1¼ hours if we have 10 drivers. If we get more than 10 drivers the track should run our groups back to back.
Last edited by Phokaioglaukos; 12-06-2006 at 09:31 PM.