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Old 02-05-2024, 12:55 PM
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Easy way to tarnish someone's character. Guilty until proven innocent.
Unless, apparently, you have orange hair...
Here's your conspiracy theory for the day - Toto did it for retribution thinking that Christian was responsible for the Suzie accusation..
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Not a wheel has been turned in 2024, even in testing, and the off track drama is off the charts…
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Originally Posted by thebishman
It all makes sense. We are going to find out a Red Bull waitress was making $2M a year and that's where their "catering budget" went over for the budget cap.
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In a reversal of previous mandate....

OFFICIAL: The FIA increases the allocated power units per driver from 3 PUs in 2023 to 4 for 2024.
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Daily Mail, which is more of a gossip column, gives a different perspective of "incredibly controlling behavior." I don't know if this is the usual millennial employee meets demanding boss type of thing, but it takes it away from the realm of the usual taboo stuff.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ccusation.html

I wonder how this all plays out.
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
Daily Mail, which is more of a gossip column, gives a different perspective of "incredibly controlling behavior." I don't know if this is the usual millennial employee meets demanding boss type of thing, but it takes it away from the realm of the usual taboo stuff.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ccusation.html

I wonder how this all plays out.
Who knows what the truth really is? Your source is a new one. The others I've read range from an inappropriate picture sent to a female employee to Toto extracting his revenge for the allegations agains he and his wife to a power struggle within Red Bull in Austria following the death of Dieter M.... it's a weird combination of soap opera, politics and Shark Tank all rolled into one that's impossible to see what's actually at play here.
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Originally Posted by multi21
In a reversal of previous mandate....

OFFICIAL: The FIA increases the allocated power units per driver from 3 PUs in 2023 to 4 for 2024.
If they keep adding races they'd better keep adding PUs.
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Sure isn't a quiet off season!!!
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Originally Posted by Nowanker
Easy way to tarnish someone's character. Guilty until proven innocent.
Unless, apparently, you have orange hair...
Kind of like many when Toto and his wife were “accused”.
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New cars/liveries.


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Williams, they picked up some new sponsors.

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Good for Williams, that car was looking pretty empty.
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Sauber reminds me (in a good way) of the radiation contamination resulting in the Incredible Hulk....
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Fred isn't messing around.... he's taking people, making Ferrari stronger and weakening opponents at the same time. What if Fred has convinced Adrian Newey to come over to Ferrari prior to the 2026 season? I'm not on Twitter, but read that Mrs. Newey liked some post about him going to Ferrari. In a podcast I listed to in December he said he's been courted by Ferrari many times but did not want to move to Italy because of his marriage. He also said that one of his regrets was not working with Fernando Alonso or Lewis Hamilton...



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Originally Posted by multi21
Sauber reminds me (in a good way) of the radiation contamination resulting in the Incredible Hulk....
I hate the name but the car looks cool. You won't mistake the Stake car for any other team out on track.
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A hearing with all Red Bull officials is imminent for this Friday. I cannot see a scenario where someone with the status of Horner is asked to leave the team for this transgression, if any is even proven. IF, and that's a big IF, Horner is relieved of his duties, where he's been head for 19 years, it's pretty much the end of Red Bull F1 Racing at these lofty heights. I can see Newey leaving as well as eventually Max. But all is not lost.... I hear Binotto is available and has been for a while after gardening leave....

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Christian Horner case: for Red Bull, it could become a Tsunami:
There is strict silence on the case, but the potential effects of the Horner incident are being heavily discussed. The first, sensational effect relates to the potential risk faced by the current Red Bull team principal.
The uproar surrounding the issue is proportional to the solidity of the individual involved; Christian Horner is not only a team principal with five world titles in the last three years but also the architect behind the Red Bull team since 2005 when Dietrich Mateschitz entrusted him with the Milton Keynes structure.
Over the course of twenty seasons, Horner has shaped Red Bull Racing with strategic market moves, such as securing Adrian Newey from McLaren, and meticulous team-building efforts, establishing a group that is revered throughout the F1 paddock.
For the past two years, Horner has also laid the groundwork for Red Bull's most ambitious project to date: designing and manufacturing their own power unit. Even in this endeavor, Christian has acted with a precise recruitment plan, poaching talent from Mercedes' Brixworth facility to assemble an experienced team, essential for starting a project from scratch. Imagining a Red Bull without Horner today is almost unthinkable, which is why the shockwave generated by the recent revelations has been immense.
Beyond the outcomes of the case, there is a scenario taking shape, confirming long-standing rumors within the paddock. Just over a year since Mateschitz's passing, the inevitable reshuffling at the top of Red Bull's sporting activities is far from settled. Operational headquarters in Milton Keynes, the group's headquarters in Salzburg, and the Thai ownership (led by Chalerm Yoovidhya, son of Red Bull's co-founder) holding a 51% stake all contribute to the complexity.
There is suspicion that the Horner incident (not for the case itself but for how it has been handled so far) could become entangled in this complex scenario. Confirmation of the ongoing internal investigation came from Salzburg, shortly before silence descended.
According to rumors from the end of last year, Horner has a close relationship with Yoovidhya, potentially causing some resentment from the Austrian side led by Mintzlaff, a more familiar ally to Helmut Marko, recently renewed in his role as 'special consultant'. For Horner, the current situation is personal, but the importance of his corporate role, beyond the outcomes, could mark a turning point in Red Bull Racing's history.
One certainty is that the Austria-Thailand axis doesn't have much time. With a season starting in a few weeks and the launch of the new car imminent, decisions must be made swiftly. Horner may remain in his position, facing some uncomfortable questions initially, but as is often the case in Formula 1, when a Grand Prix begins, much, if not all, is left behind. If drastic decisions are made, however, the team that won 21 out of 22 races last year will face the toughest challenge in its history, leading to unforeseeable or unimaginable scenarios.
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