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Old 06-10-2024, 08:19 AM
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What a hugely entertaining race, probably our favorite of the year.

Lando exiting pits on slicks with Max coming down the front straight, and you know the pit lane exit is still wet We were laughing our ****** off watching Lando trying to make it happen, too good.

George is maybe just a bit too high strung in scenarios like this, Singapore last year, now Montreal, but those were extremely tough conditions. Believe he'll get there. Clearly an exceptional talent. His pass on Lewis to reclaim 3rd was something. Didn't get much coverage/credit on the broadcast because it was a pass on the precious.

Max looks like he's having more fun now, honestly. This current crop of younger F1 drivers are so excellent, throw in Lewis and Fernando here and there, great viewing.
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Old 06-10-2024, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
Put George in the quickest car and he will win the WDC.
I don't know.... George makes too many brain fade mistakes. He's been doing this long enough to have grown out of that.
Think about it: everyone is saying Mercedes (and McLaren and Ferrari) are now faster than RB right? But Max and his "slow" RB still won.
The stat that they said at the end was mind boggling - in Max's 75 starts, he's won 50 of them! He's WON 2/3 of all the F1 races he's ever started.
EDIT: I am NOT a Max or RB fan.
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Old 06-10-2024, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NaroEscape
I don't know.... George makes too many brain fade mistakes. He's been doing this long enough to have grown out of that.
Think about it: everyone is saying Mercedes (and McLaren and Ferrari) are now faster than RB right? But Max and his "slow" RB still won.
George's error was much the same as Max's into T2, many others yesterday. The difference was it happened as he was making headway on Max in the lead. But we don't know how much George was having to push to make that happen. Probably, a lot.

He's 14 up on HAM for points, and is it 8:1 in qualifying now? Crofty put the underhanded question/comment out there about if he's too error prone. I think there's some maturing to come, but too harsh on George at the moment, imo. He clearly belongs...
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Originally Posted by ParadiseGT3
George's error was much the same as Max's into T2, many others yesterday. The difference was it happened as he was making headway on Max in the lead. But we don't know how much George was having to push to make that happen. Probably, a lot.

He's 14 up on HAM for points, and is it 8:1 in qualifying now? Crofty put the underhanded question/comment out there about if he's too error prone. I think there's some maturing to come, but too harsh on George at the moment, imo. He clearly belongs...
Oh don't get me wrong, GR is hugely talented and yes, better than is aging teammate (I kinda wonder if Ferrari is regretting their decision for next year?).
My point is more that this is 6 years in F1 and he still makes mistakes that cost him. That wasn't the first time, and I suspect won't be the last time.
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Old 06-10-2024, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NaroEscape
I don't know.... George makes too many brain fade mistakes. He's been doing this long enough to have grown out of that.
Think about it: everyone is saying Mercedes (and McLaren and Ferrari) are now faster than RB right? But Max and his "slow" RB still won.
The stat that they said at the end was mind boggling - in Max's 75 starts, he's won 50 of them! He's WON 2/3 of all the F1 races he's ever started.
EDIT: I am NOT a Max or RB fan.
George is driving at 10/10ths to fight with Max and Lando. Give him a car that is slightly quicker and those "brain fades" disappear.

All the top drivers, Max, Lewis, Vettel, etc all made similar mistakes before they figured it out. George will figure it out.

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Checo gets a 3-place grid penalty for Spain after the team "advised" him to drive back to the pits with his rear wing hanging off instead of parking it and drawing a SC.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...lzLcjBrCSuVgAX
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Originally Posted by gbuff
Checo gets a 3-place grid penalty for Spain after the team "advised" him to drive back to the pits with his rear wing hanging off instead of parking it and drawing a SC.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...lzLcjBrCSuVgAX
It was worth it.
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Originally Posted by winders
Not if Verstappen is in the same car. Again, Verstappen is flattering the RB20 in a big way.
I agree, but we probably both know Max and George will never be in the same car
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Originally Posted by gbuff
Checo gets a 3-place grid penalty for Spain after the team "advised" him to drive back to the pits with his rear wing hanging off instead of parking it and drawing a SC.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...lzLcjBrCSuVgAX
Will Perez get out of Q1 to really matter much?
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Old 06-10-2024, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera

Rumor has it that the 992.2GT2RS is going to be a hybrid with a system almost identical to the GTS just introduced.

This isn’t about virtue it’s about performance. Putting the pieces in place to introduce the 992.2 GT2 RS.
And it will probably still only redline at 7,500rpm while McLaren and Ferrari turbos both redline at 8,500, and Lambo just announced a twin-turbo V8 that redlines at 10,000.


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Congratulations to Mercedes and George Russell on pole position. They've certainly found something with their upgrade, at least in Russell's hands, and good to have a 4th team put pressure on Red Bull.

At this point, I'm very happy that there was a red flag in Monaco which took the strategy out of the hands of the Ferrari pit wall and secured a victory, at least, in Charles, because not fitting new tires at the end of Q2 when the track was ramping up is so 2022 for Ferrari strategy.

I'm really looking forward to the battle between Russell and Max tomorrow at the front. We all know what Max can do and this is a moment in time where Russell can shine if he can mentally keep it together under duress.
And yet somehow Max landed on the top step again...

Another dismal weekend for Ferrari and Checo.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
And it will probably still only redline at 7,500rpm while McLaren and Ferrari turbos both redline at 8,500, and Lambo just announced a twin-turbo V8 that redlines at 10,000.




And yet somehow Max landed on the top step again...

Another dismal weekend for Ferrari and Checo.
Max is just Max and that’s why he’s current the best in his generation.. It’s difficult to be too critical of Russell because nearly everyone had an off at some point yesterday in bad conditions, but these are the types of opportunities that make decent racers, great racers. George didn’t cease that opportunity and had to be told by Uncle Toto to focus… not a good look if you want to be the #1 within the team for the future.

IMO, Lando seems like the one to watch before the summer break. He just seems like he has the mojo, the car underneath him and is driving at such a high level that it’s hard not to see him win again soon.
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Originally Posted by multi21
Sounds like Horner was quick to correct everyone after this weekend that the contract is not a 2 year but a 1+1.
After this weekend, I think Horner will clarify the above to state that it means: 1 Month + 1 month! 😂
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Old 06-10-2024, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlo_Carrera
I agree, but we probably both know Max and George will never be in the same car
Okay. But let’s look at 2021. Verstappen was not in the best car yet he won the championship. Now, before you claim Hamilton was robbed, let’s note that Verstappen should never have been close enough to win the championship on that call. Verstappen is certainly a better driver today than he was then.

Verstappen flatters cars more than Russell does. More than any one else driving today. To beat Verstappen, Russell needs a better car by a good margin. Russell in a slightly better car than Verstappen is no guarantee of a championship.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
And it will probably still only redline at 7,500rpm while McLaren and Ferrari turbos both redline at 8,500, and Lambo just announced a twin-turbo V8 that redlines at 10,000…
I don’t think anyone has any idea of what the rpm specs of the upcoming GT2RS will be. So I’m going wait until we know.

As for high revving. That’s always been the domain of the GT3.

The GT2 had always been the quickest. And I have a feeling the new one will be faster than all of the new McLarens and Lamborghinis and Ferraris around the Ring. Because that’s what it’s job is.

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Originally Posted by multi21
Will Perez get out of Q1 to really matter much?
Of course he will.

Now, Q2 is another story.....


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