Panamera 4 E-hybrid Owners Thread
05-08-2018, 02:57 PM
#1067
Hi SaratogaLefty, I also just got my 4 Hybrid wrapped with Xpel Ultimate Plus and it looks great. I did a custom wrap on the full front part of the car including mirrors and A-pillars. When I requested that the headlights also be wrapped my installed toll me that Porsche would void the warranty on the headlights if I did. Something to do with a special coating that Porsche applies to the headlights that is removed during the pre-clean process. You might what to double check with your installer. With respect to Ceramic Pro coating, what caused you choose that process and how much does it cost? BTW your car looks great in your posted pictures.
I visited four different detailers in the South Bay Area and also contacted one from the North Bay via email. Each of them had a slightly different process and also in some cases different products (e.g. SunTek, 3M, CQuartz, GTechnic, etc.) In my opinion these are all good products but the reason I chose my detailer had more to do with his process. Some of the others used pre-cut patterns whereas my guy cuts his own and oversizes each piece to allow for rolling the edges whereas the pre-cuts I viewed left a fine line just inside the edges and over time I believe that line will show up more and more. The Ceramic Pro Gold Package which I chose consists of 4 coats of Ceramic Pro 9H followed by a fifth coat of Light. The package also includes two coats of "Rain" on all the glass and two coats of Strong on the wheels and calipers. My guy actually removed all the wheels and did them inside and out and he also threw in a leather treatment. Further the Gold Package comes with a "Lifetime guarantee" but to keep it valid you have to bring it in for the Annual inspection and refresh coating of Sport to maintain the warranty. Not a big deal for me as I like to have my cars detailed at least once a year anyway. Also, the Xpel Ultimate Plus now comes with a 10 year warranty. Don't know how good these guarantees are but I am extremely happy with how the car looks and I appreciate the added protection,
05-08-2018, 08:04 PM
#1068
My sales associate just emailed today! I have officially confirmed allocation of a 2019 Panamera 4 e-Hybrid Executive with 7% off MSRP. Awaiting more details and info...
05-08-2018, 08:08 PM
#1069
I have the onboard 7.2 kW charger and I am using a 240 V outlet. Yesterday the car showed 28 miles after full charge. Car now has just under 700 miles on it. No Check Engine light problems.
05-08-2018, 08:11 PM
#1070
Check engine light stayed on for four days. After driving the car and charging it normally the last four days, the check engine light turned off on its own. The only thing I've done differently was charge the battery with a 240V outlet instead of the standard 120V. Electrician installed it yesterday. I am not sure if the 240V outlet used made a difference, but that happened a few hours before the light turned off. I doubt it, to be honest. Used the OEM charger that was included with the car. I called the Service Manager immediately and had an extensive discussion. He told me to try to log all charging activities for him for the next week. Outlet type, battery level at beginning of charge, battery level at end of charge, battery level at time the check engine light comes on again. He said Gen 1 Pano Hybrid was a nightmare as far as the "check engine" light issues. Service manager believes the current issue has to do with a low voltage detection by the system. Which then tends to shut off communication with other systems to preserve charge/battery. I can't say that I fully understand the situation enough to explain it, but was hoping to relay this in hopes that it mirrors any other contributor's Service Dept diagnosis. Will keep you guys posted. Please do share other diagnoses once available.
05-08-2018, 08:14 PM
#1071
I haven't asked about tar spots but I will when I take it back for the 2 week "after curing" followup wash and additional film. I may ask him again to try and take off the Porsche film.
05-09-2018, 02:33 PM
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The OEM charger never asked my about 50% vs. 100%. Since the light turned off by itself on Sunday evening (around Day 6), it has not returned. I have not driven the car any differently than I did the first few days. All electric to and from work. Eighteen miles each way. I can only guess that maybe the sensors needed to be "broken-in" or "self calibrated" for a few days? Fingers crossed that the light doesn't come on again. But in a nutshell, I do not believe I did anything to cause the check engine light to turn off. Will keep all posted. Anyone else who's seeing the check engine have updates?
05-09-2018, 06:53 PM
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The OEM charger never asked my about 50% vs. 100%. Since the light turned off by itself on Sunday evening (around Day 6), it has not returned. I have not driven the car any differently than I did the first few days. All electric to and from work. Eighteen miles each way. I can only guess that maybe the sensors needed to be "broken-in" or "self calibrated" for a few days? Fingers crossed that the light doesn't come on again. But in a nutshell, I do not believe I did anything to cause the check engine light to turn off. Will keep all posted. Anyone else who's seeing the check engine have updates?
05-09-2018, 07:18 PM
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Burning Brakes
So are you saying you are getting over 36 miles on electric only? This morning mine indicated 27 miles after full charge when I left. Actually got about 23 miles. 50% freeway at 70 mph and the rest at 55 mph on surface road with multiple stops for traffic lights. Hoping it will get better soon.
05-09-2018, 07:26 PM
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So are you saying you are getting over 36 miles on electric only? This morning mine indicated 27 miles after full charge when I left. Actually got about 23 miles. 50% freeway at 70 mph and the rest at 55 mph on surface road with multiple stops for traffic lights. Hoping it will get better soon.
05-09-2018, 08:22 PM
#1076
So how long was your morning drive? more than 23 miles, I'm presuming... You went all-electric until it ran out after 23 miles? Then I'm guessing it went to Hybrid Auto, and did the ICE then stay on the rest of the commute, or was there enough electric juice from regen braking and coasting to occasionally revert back to E mode?
05-09-2018, 08:57 PM
#1077
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I drove to the pool where I swim and then to my golf course; about 14 miles. Then after I played golf I drove home; about 12 miles. Made it almost all the way home but the battery wound down to about 1 miles with about 2 miles to go. I got a message indicating E power no longer available and the ICE kicked on. I actually wouldn't have noticed if I didn't see the tachometer start up. When I got off the freeway and stopped at a light motor went back off. Then started out in E mode again for a short distance and ICE came back on until I got home. You are correct, when the battery ran down, the car automatically switched to Hybrid mode.
05-09-2018, 10:39 PM
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Completely off the topic of range in E-mode... Saratoga, you mentioned your golf trip. Do you take your clubs with you or are they stored at the Club? How do the clubs fit under the rear hatch? I am concerned about how they will fit without the cutouts behind the wheel wells that are eliminated due to the battery for the Hybrid. The few quick measurements I took indicate I should have no problem, but interested in your experience. Thanks
05-09-2018, 11:13 PM
#1080
Burning Brakes
That is interesting. I looked a little deeper, and found that there are listed 113 ST Turbos, 64 Sport Turismo 4S, and 31 Sport Turismo 4 cars listed there. That's amazing: almost 4 times as many Turbos as base 4 cars, at average price of about 1.5-1.7 times more. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
