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Old 03-08-2022, 12:28 PM
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If you have the ELV module, which is located in the steering column, not the steering rack, then yes, this is a security module that maintains the key encryption and can only be programmed by someone connected to Porsche network. In the US, this is only dealers. Now, most cars do not have the ELV module, it is optional and rarely ordered. If your car has one, then you won't be able to program it. Remember, it locks the column not the steering gear. It is also removable. It may be possible to remove it, then alter the car's details to eliminate this option but the modules that would need reprogramming are also the ones that require online programming. The DME, FBC, RBC and the ELV all maintain the immobilizer information and for that reason, must be programmed by a dealer connected to Porsche.

"The electromechanical steering lock serves to block the steering by mechanical means, in order to prevent unauthorized use of the vehicle. The electro-mechanical steering lock is installed in the steering system and can only be removed after dismantling the steering system. As a component of the electronic immobilizer, the electro-mechanical steering lock must be authenticated for release of the ignition by the immobilizer master. Both the Front and Rear BCM’s authorize the release of the ELV. Each controller is individually wired to the ELV"

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Old 03-08-2022, 12:42 PM
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Thanks for that info. How or where would you specifically order the ELV (just making sure I never accidentally order it)? Do you have a code for that option or is it part of some exotic suite?

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Originally Posted by siberian
Thanks for that info. How or where would you specifically order the ELV (just making sure I never accidentally order it)? Do you have a code for that option or is it part of some exotic suite?

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I believe they discontinued this option, I don't see it on a build list. There is a video on youtube on how to remove it.
Old 03-09-2022, 11:00 PM
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Anyone bought from Belauto recently? I'm trying to buy software from them, but it seems they only accept Western Union or Paysend now. No more Paypal.
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Contact @rnlst_log with PM

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Old 03-10-2022, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by plantman77
Anyone bought from Belauto recently? I'm trying to buy software from them, but it seems they only accept Western Union or Paysend now. No more Paypal.
I think they solved the problems with paypal
https://mhhauto.com/Thread-Piwis-3-v...clone-and-PT3G
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Originally Posted by FerdinandAG
I think they solved the problems with paypal
https://mhhauto.com/Thread-Piwis-3-v...clone-and-PT3G
Thanks. Is there any reason to get the latest version of PIWIS if only working on older cars? I figured 38.200.17 would do.
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Originally Posted by plantman77
Thanks. Is there any reason to get the latest version of PIWIS if only working on older cars? I figured 38.200.17 would do.
if the car is older than 2018, then 38.200 will be enough
Old 03-11-2022, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rbrunelle
If you have the ELV module, which is located in the steering column, not the steering rack, then yes, this is a security module that maintains the key encryption and can only be programmed by someone connected to Porsche network. In the US, this is only dealers. Now, most cars do not have the ELV module, it is optional and rarely ordered. If your car has one, then you won't be able to program it. Remember, it locks the column not the steering gear. It is also removable. It may be possible to remove it, then alter the car's details to eliminate this option but the modules that would need reprogramming are also the ones that require online programming. The DME, FBC, RBC and the ELV all maintain the immobilizer information and for that reason, must be programmed by a dealer connected to Porsche.

"The electromechanical steering lock serves to block the steering by mechanical means, in order to prevent unauthorized use of the vehicle. The electro-mechanical steering lock is installed in the steering system and can only be removed after dismantling the steering system. As a component of the electronic immobilizer, the electro-mechanical steering lock must be authenticated for release of the ignition by the immobilizer master. Both the Front and Rear BCM’s authorize the release of the ELV. Each controller is individually wired to the ELV"
The ELV will unlock upon insertion or recognition of valid key, which then allowed to turn steering and start the car. @mhuraib please confirm if steering cannot turn when key inserted and engine run?
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Looks like the ebay seller either ran out of VAS6154 or their listing expired.
I found this one on Walmart of all places. I think this is the correct one, I don't know what the dvds are for.

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It shows out of stock...

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Old 03-11-2022, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by siberian
It shows out of stock...

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That walmart link? Weird it shows in stock for me. Can't find VAS6154 1.6.6 anywhere else right now.
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Sorry it shows out of stock as it took the Wallyworld store in Fairbanks. My bad

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Old 03-14-2022, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by plantman77
Anyone bought from Belauto recently? I'm trying to buy software from them, but it seems they only accept Western Union or Paysend now. No more Paypal.
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Old 03-14-2022, 10:44 AM
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they accept paypal payments

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