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Old 01-06-2014, 10:11 PM
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Some guys are still stuck in the past. Times have changed and so has brake technology. Heavy cars are still fast and can run all day, been happening for years.

At advanced DE pace, there is no reason to think this car won't be able to make it through a DE weekend without issues.

The Camaro is an icon in itself, and has it's own following. In limited quantities, it will sell.
Old 01-06-2014, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wanna911
Some guys are still stuck in the past. Times have changed and so has brake technology. Heavy cars are still fast and can run all day, been happening for years.

At advanced DE pace, there is no reason to think this car won't be able to make it through a DE weekend without issues.

The Camaro is an icon in itself, and has it's own following. In limited quantities, it will sell.
Sure, but the cost grows disproportionately - bigger rotors, bigger pads, bigger tires, more gas etc. Also, the tires have their limits, no matter what you do to the car. Even if brakes stay cool enough, the tires will not.
Old 01-07-2014, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
Sure, but the cost grows disproportionately - bigger rotors, bigger pads, bigger tires, more gas etc. Also, the tires have their limits, no matter what you do to the car. Even if brakes stay cool enough, the tires will not.
It's not just the cost of consumables. Weight is just much less fun in the turns, even if it comes with higher HP to propel you into the straights. It's a different style of driving (point and shoot) that I find less appealing. 3800lb is just too heavy for the track.
Old 01-07-2014, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hf1
It's not just the cost of consumables. Weight is just much less fun in the turns, even if it comes with higher HP to propel you into the straights. It's a different style of driving (point and shoot) that I find less appealing. 3800lb is just too heavy for the track.
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:11 PM
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http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...ay-camaro-z28/
Callaway Cars, a tuner most famous for its modified Chevrolet Corvettes, has turned to the Chevrolet Camaro for its latest creation called the Callaway Camaro Z/28 SC652. The company says it will only build 10 of these high-powered muscle cars as soon as the standard 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 goes on sale.

The main Callaway modification to the Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 is the addition of an Eaton TVS supercharger that brings the Z/28’s massive 7.0-liter V-8 up to 652 hp and 620 lb-ft of torque, a whopping 147 hp more than stock. Callaway has also added a high-flow intake and a low-restriction exhaust, but left much of the Camaro Z/28 alone, as this track-ready version of Camaro is already fitted with performance upgrades like Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes, spool-valve dampers, and special aerodynamic tweaks as standard. The Camaro Z/28 also is stripped of its sound system and air conditioning in the pursuit of speed.

You may be asking why Callaway would supercharge a Camaro Z/28 when the supercharged Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 already exists, but this Callaway Camaro Z/28 looks to be a much more focused, hardcore track car than the heavier, slightly softer Camaro ZL1 which makes 580 hp from a 6.2-liter supercharged V-8. With its huge power boost, it’s a sure bet that the Callaway Camaro Z/28 SC652 would lap the Nürburgring even faster than the standard Camaro Z/28’s already impressive time of 7 minutes, 37 seconds.

Callaway describes this upgrade package as “not for the faint of heart,” and the $19,995 price of entry lives up to that billing. That’s on top of the Chevrolet Camaro Z/28’s starting price of $75,000, including destination. All in, you’re looking at a near-$100,000 Chevrolet Camaro. If this sounds like your cup of tea, Callaway says it will begin production of the Callaway Camaro Z/28 as soon as Chevrolet starts shipping the Camaro Z/28 to dealers starting this spring.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...ay-camaro-z28/
Callaway Cars, a tuner most famous for its modified Chevrolet Corvettes, has turned to the Chevrolet Camaro for its latest creation called the Callaway Camaro Z/28 SC652. The company says it will only build 10 of these high-powered muscle cars as soon as the standard 2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 goes on sale.

The main Callaway modification to the Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 is the addition of an Eaton TVS supercharger that brings the Z/28’s massive 7.0-liter V-8 up to 652 hp and 620 lb-ft of torque, a whopping 147 hp more than stock. Callaway has also added a high-flow intake and a low-restriction exhaust, but left much of the Camaro Z/28 alone, as this track-ready version of Camaro is already fitted with performance upgrades like Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes, spool-valve dampers, and special aerodynamic tweaks as standard. The Camaro Z/28 also is stripped of its sound system and air conditioning in the pursuit of speed.

You may be asking why Callaway would supercharge a Camaro Z/28 when the supercharged Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 already exists, but this Callaway Camaro Z/28 looks to be a much more focused, hardcore track car than the heavier, slightly softer Camaro ZL1 which makes 580 hp from a 6.2-liter supercharged V-8. With its huge power boost, it’s a sure bet that the Callaway Camaro Z/28 SC652 would lap the Nürburgring even faster than the standard Camaro Z/28’s already impressive time of 7 minutes, 37 seconds.

Callaway describes this upgrade package as “not for the faint of heart,” and the $19,995 price of entry lives up to that billing. That’s on top of the Chevrolet Camaro Z/28’s starting price of $75,000, including destination. All in, you’re looking at a near-$100,000 Chevrolet Camaro. If this sounds like your cup of tea, Callaway says it will begin production of the Callaway Camaro Z/28 as soon as Chevrolet starts shipping the Camaro Z/28 to dealers starting this spring.
Whoever prefers this to the 500-600lb lighter (warrantied and cheaper?) Z06 should have their heads examined. "Stripped of its sound system and air conditioning in the pursuit of speed" -- LOL!
Old 02-21-2014, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxLTV
Sure, but the cost grows disproportionately - bigger rotors, bigger pads, bigger tires, more gas etc. Also, the tires have their limits, no matter what you do to the car. Even if brakes stay cool enough, the tires will not.

A few things, #1 the guy that spends 75k on a Camaro probably isn't too worried about a few hundred bucks extra per year in rotor's and/or pads. Six pistons + Pagid yellow will last you at the very least half a season if not a whole one doing DE. Not braking the bank.

More gas? lol..... no comment.

Bigger tires, no not necessarily, go get some 18's and throw some NT-01's and go fast and have fun without much money into it. Try that with a 991 GT3....... which btw doesn't seem to friendly on the tires either for it's relative lightness and isn't likely to fit 18's, so tires far more expensive to begin with.

DE driving is about what 5% tops for the average sports car. These are really small issues to overcome. Is lighter better? No doubt! But let's not make mountains out of molehills. Everything comes with a cost these days. Few people will buy this car for dedicated track service. The rest will be occassional DE cars. And the car will be able to do that just fine.
Old 02-21-2014, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 997TTMeteor
There is some pretty serious hardware on the Z28 but I think 3,800 lbs is the real nail in the coffin. It may turn a few fast laps but good luck punishing that thing all day without overheating or going through a full set of tires and pads. $75k would be the cheap part – running it on the track would cost a fortune (19x305 Trofeo’s at all corners and ceramic brakes).

Will be interesting to see the Z06 specs next Monday.
Do you not think Chevy has not already tested it out for weeks at the track.Do you really think they are going to warrantee track use if it couldn't go allday.Wake up they spent the money to send it to the ring.
Old 02-21-2014, 04:54 PM
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A Sweet friggin car....and it's a Chevy.
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You say it likes that a good thing?
Old 02-21-2014, 05:47 PM
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Pulley the ZL1 down, add a tune and possibly some meth, and leave a lot of money in your pocket and be faster and smoother, especially on the street with the air on. Callaway a HUGE waste of money. The Z will ride like crap. Looks sweet as hell though, just saw it at Chicago Autoshow.
Old 02-21-2014, 05:48 PM
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I saw this car at my local auto show. Its got impressive hardware but $75k is a bit steep.
Id still rather a c7 z51 for less dough and weight.
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Agreed, I just like to see GM cater to the track enthusiasts.
I'd love a c7 non z06 get the z28 treatment and the Z06 on board oem data camera system.

Just make it bullet proof on track and assure us that you get warranty "as long as you didn't hit a wall"

Old 02-21-2014, 11:40 PM
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Not sure GM will be able to make it bullet proof but they are really good about their warranty.
Old 02-22-2014, 01:04 PM
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How about a c7 club sport


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