OT - Z/28 at the 'Ring: 7:37 wet lap
03-09-2014, 02:14 PM
#106
I race in classes where cars are quite mixed. Sometimes I'm coming off of a corner right behind a former trans-am or nascar, and I have to say I've found myself swearing and laughing out loud when those things just lay stripes (literally) and open up with that V8 soundtrack - on what for me are third gear corners. I know they are having a ball.
That thing is going to be a monster. And I bet it's a ball because you'll be able to drive it on the throttle like few other cars...
That thing is going to be a monster. And I bet it's a ball because you'll be able to drive it on the throttle like few other cars...
03-10-2014, 02:23 AM
#108
I don't understand why some people are defending extra weight in a track car. Kudos to chevy and it's team for such an awesome job on some of the details, but I bet if you were to ask them, what's the one thing you would change in the car?....
03-10-2014, 02:10 PM
#109
Late Porkchops
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Sure .
But don't be fooled on Porsches weights either . They don't always add up . Porsches do feel lighter though . But the extra ponies in these V8s have a feel too .
But don't be fooled on Porsches weights either . They don't always add up . Porsches do feel lighter though . But the extra ponies in these V8s have a feel too .
03-16-2014, 05:51 PM
#111
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How much is one of these again ? $75,000 plus dealer gouge .
While it did beat my Boss 302 , I still think that the Vette isn't a better buy .
I do think that tires and the magnetic suspension is most of the difference though . Plus my Boss came at a great price !
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Maybe I am missing something. Why all the consternation over Z28 weight? If I am not mistaken it's weight is the same as the Porsche TTS. What counts is its performance and it is faster on the Ring than the CGT, Lambo, 458 and other super sport cars and at a fraction of the price WITH TRACK WARRANTY.
A $58k C7 Z51 vette (another GM product) is 500lb lighter and with better lb/hp ratio, and also with track warranty. The Z28 is advertised as a track weapon. At 500lb heavier than a vette it's more like a pig. 500lbs is a lot of extra work for brakes, tires, suspension, etc.
It's the comparison to the $58k vette that I don't get.
EDIT: Plus the Z28 has the old, outgoing 7.0L LS7 engine that has had a lot of problems (as per corvetteforum). The C7 has the newer, more robust 6.2L LT1 engine
While it did beat my Boss 302 , I still think that the Vette isn't a better buy .
I do think that tires and the magnetic suspension is most of the difference though . Plus my Boss came at a great price !
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Originally Posted by Nick View Post
Maybe I am missing something. Why all the consternation over Z28 weight? If I am not mistaken it's weight is the same as the Porsche TTS. What counts is its performance and it is faster on the Ring than the CGT, Lambo, 458 and other super sport cars and at a fraction of the price WITH TRACK WARRANTY.
A $58k C7 Z51 vette (another GM product) is 500lb lighter and with better lb/hp ratio, and also with track warranty. The Z28 is advertised as a track weapon. At 500lb heavier than a vette it's more like a pig. 500lbs is a lot of extra work for brakes, tires, suspension, etc.
It's the comparison to the $58k vette that I don't get.
EDIT: Plus the Z28 has the old, outgoing 7.0L LS7 engine that has had a lot of problems (as per corvetteforum). The C7 has the newer, more robust 6.2L LT1 engine
03-21-2014, 02:54 AM
#113
Late Porkchops
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Interesting .
And still unusual to hear factory guys talking about tracking these cars .
Maybe Ford will climb up some more too . But in some ways they have as the dedicated racing only Boss can be bought for similar money .
And still unusual to hear factory guys talking about tracking these cars .
Maybe Ford will climb up some more too . But in some ways they have as the dedicated racing only Boss can be bought for similar money .
03-24-2014, 10:12 AM
#118
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Wow, my best lap in the 3.8RS was a 1.38 on RA1's.
The track got faster with the new surface and I'm no Pobst but I would say this car as about as fast a GT3RS on fast courses.
I'm going to test drive Savyboy's at Spring Mountain along with some Z51's
He does not know this yet and I usually don't test drive the cars that I buy from him, but I may be able to this time :-) ;-)
The track got faster with the new surface and I'm no Pobst but I would say this car as about as fast a GT3RS on fast courses.
I'm going to test drive Savyboy's at Spring Mountain along with some Z51's
He does not know this yet and I usually don't test drive the cars that I buy from him, but I may be able to this time :-) ;-)
03-24-2014, 11:02 AM
#119
Wow, my best lap in the 3.8RS was a 1.38 on RA1's.
The track got faster with the new surface and I'm no Pobst but I would say this car as about as fast a GT3RS on fast courses.
I'm going to test drive Savyboy's at Spring Mountain along with some Z51's
He does not know this yet and I usually don't test drive the cars that I buy from him, but I may be able to this time :-) ;-)
The track got faster with the new surface and I'm no Pobst but I would say this car as about as fast a GT3RS on fast courses.
I'm going to test drive Savyboy's at Spring Mountain along with some Z51's
He does not know this yet and I usually don't test drive the cars that I buy from him, but I may be able to this time :-) ;-)
The press embargo came off and there are a variety of videos and article now out in the wild- bottom line: GT3 killer at 1/2 the purchase price and 1/8 the repair cost.
Maybe I don't need rear wheels steering, a 9000RPM exploding engine, $10,000 of Porsche electronic driving aids and deviated stitching, and a double-coupling tranny (ewww!) to have fun and run fast laps? OMG!
Here's Randy Pobsts' take: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...28_first_test/
"The new Z/28 is an exclusive, no-compromise ponycar for the track. A hands-on driver. Organic, not electronic. Buy it with that in mind, and you’ll be delighted. You won’t mind the way it follows every trough in the pavement, or that air-conditioning is optional; buy that for the pre-grid only. The best Corvettes are still lighter and faster, so you have to want a Camaro, a great one that almost no one else has, with its own unique thrills. At the end of the day, I jumped from an all-wheel-drive Nissan GT-R and Porsche 911 Turbo S to the rear-drive all-American Z/28, and in a slight power-slide as I left the lot, the grin on my face reminded me which one was my favorite."
03-25-2014, 05:40 PM
#120
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