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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TennisGuy
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Perhaps, if the steering wheel is moved closer, it’s not a problem to see, but then the steering wheel is at wrong distance for optimal driving position.

Glad it worked for you.
I think driving position has alot to do with it. I also found the steering wheel blocks most of the screen for me, which was a shame...the screens are very nice and high resolution.
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 02:02 PM
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I think the real competition lies between which car better utilizes cheap looking black exterior plastics...


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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 02:25 PM
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I’m sorry, but that rear quarter panel and back end is just plain nasty. All those gashes and slashes are already dated looking.
Old Oct 17, 2019 | 02:49 PM
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The far left gauge is a clock or compass (depending upon what you configure in the PCM)
The far right gauge contains the fuel gauge and water temperature OR the overflow portion of the navigation map.
...neither gauge is vital for the operation of the vehicle. The design is perfectly acceptable.

I'd rather have the classic big gauge proportions than for Porsche to make some weird accommodation so that these gauges are unobstructed for every possible size of driver and seating position. For example, the C8 Corvette wheel is oddly shaped so that you can see the gauges -- no one wants a solution like that.
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by detansinn
For example, the C8 Corvette wheel is oddly shaped so that you can see the gauges -- no one wants a solution like that.
I think it's great. It shows that someone actually gave a crap about what they were doing.
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 06:02 PM
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I agree. The gauge placement in the 992 is horrendous and inexcusable. I’ve never owned a car where I couldn’t see all the gauges. The outer ones are completely blocked for me. Details matter a great deal to me. Things that are not right or sloppy drive me crazy. It’s the same with the Homelink being in the menu rather than a physical button. I honestly think that would elevate my blood pressure every morning. And what about multiple garage doors? I currently have three buttons programmed for 3 different doors. There is no doubt that the 992 is a great car, but there are several details that are bad enough that they could ruin the experience. What if Cindy Crawford had that mole on the tip of her nose rather than on her lip? Details matter!
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Swift
I’ve never owned a car where I couldn’t see all the gauges.
then you've never owned 911s from the 70's and 80's ... because they all had the outside two gauges blocked by the steering



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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 06:19 PM
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This is me with the seat and steering wheel set to their most comfortable position. I'm 6'2 as well, looked just fine to me. At certain angles I believe it could potentially be obscured, but it wasn't a major problem. I haven't driven one yet, so I don't know how it would look while driving, but it works for me.


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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 992Sam
then you've never owned 911s from the 70's and 80's ... because they all had the outside two gauges blocked by the steering


Not to mention the HVAC controls are completely obscured. And the weird buttons with inscrutable labels, haphazardly placed. I love the old interiors - they have tons of character and are built solid like nothing is built today. But they are an ergonomic nightmare.
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by detansinn
The far left gauge is a clock or compass (depending upon what you configure in the PCM)
The far right gauge contains the fuel gauge and water temperature OR the overflow portion of the navigation map.
...neither gauge is vital for the operation of the vehicle. The design is perfectly acceptable.

I'd rather have the classic big gauge proportions than for Porsche to make some weird accommodation so that these gauges are unobstructed for every possible size of driver and seating position. For example, the C8 Corvette wheel is oddly shaped so that you can see the gauges -- no one wants a solution like that.
Its pretty annoying to look at the big clear map but blocked off by the steering wheel. Its not a deal breaker, but a pretty big design flaw imo... When I was playing around with the 992 in the showroom, that was the biggest flaw for me. I didnt really care much about the other stuff like the nubbin or the black plastic.

Originally Posted by 992Sam
then you've never owned 911s from the 70's and 80's ... because they all had the outside two gauges blocked by the steering



but the 991 didnt have that problem, Panamera/ Cayenne neither. If they did it as a "throwback flaw" then thats really dumb.

Don't get me wrong over all I really like the 992 after seeing it in person, but did not expect a detail like this to be overlooked by Porsche.
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by natman316
Its pretty annoying to look at the big clear map but blocked off by the steering wheel. Its not a deal breaker, but a pretty big design flaw imo... When I was playing around with the 992 in the showroom, that was the biggest flaw for me. I didnt really care much about the other stuff like the nubbin or the black plastic.



but the 991 didnt have that problem, Panamera/ Cayenne neither. If they did it as a "throwback flaw" then thats really dumb.

Don't get me wrong over all I really like the 992 after seeing it in person, but did not expect a detail like this to be overlooked by Porsche.
any solution would ruin the symmetrical look of the layout... there's no way around it.. I prefer the obstruction to the overlapping 991 style gauge panel... moreover, if you move the wheel forward (telescope it)... as I will likely do anyway... it is much easier to view thru... see the pic above posted by the 6'2" tall member..
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 07:02 PM
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The article doesn't correspond to the final result. How does a car with huge understeer, subpar steering and brakes that drives like a "luxury sports sedan" win a sports car comparo test? How does the car with "more midcorner grip allowing us to carry higher cornering speeds and get on the throttle earlier when exiting a corner, as well as more steering feel and better brake feel at the limit" lose?

And the C8 is just plain ugly -- already not "aging" well. C9 is almost guaranteed to have all those creases and angles softened or outright deleted. Not a fan of the 992 either, but the C8 seems to be worse - 4 inches longer, 3 inches wider and 200+ lbs heavier than an already porky 992. If you want a cruiser disconnected from the road get a 5 series, E class, or A6.
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ianmSC
This is me with the seat and steering wheel set to their most comfortable position. I'm 6'2 as well, looked just fine to me. At certain angles I believe it could potentially be obscured, but it wasn't a major problem. I haven't driven one yet, so I don't know how it would look while driving, but it works for me.
It looks like your nose is about three inches away from the horn button.
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 08:44 PM
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I'm pretty sure I had hit the 2x zoom on the iPhone camera, here's another one at regular zoom.

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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 08:52 PM
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For reference, here's a picture from my current car, but this was taken with a different phone, and in portrait, not landscape.
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