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Old 09-28-2014, 10:44 PM
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Did anyone cross shop a Macan with a S6/S7 or BMW 550xi? Just curious if anyone's driven both. I took delivery of my Macan S recently but it feels a little sluggish for me (thinking of upgrading to a Turbo if I can find a buyer for my S). Just curious if anyone has cross shopped with the Audi/BMW sedan's though.
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not even a close comparison for the prices..

the s is quick for what it is... not sure why you would need more power in a mini suv... do you do timed laps to grocery store?
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do you do timed laps to grocery store
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the next time you drive, push the sport button.. less lag,.. sport plus is even better for lag/throttle response but the shift points are annoying..

all in all i find the macan S more than quick enough for anything i do including driving like a complete *******..

considering the 420hp panamera S has the same engine, im still waiting for someone to come out with a chiptune for the macanS to bump it up... pretty sure the turbo's/etc are identical so it's just detuned so the 3.6 has a lil more gusto for the buck.
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Originally Posted by rijowysock
the next time you drive, push the sport button.. less lag,.. sport plus is even better for lag/throttle response but the shift points are annoying..

all in all i find the macan S more than quick enough for anything i do including driving like a complete *******..

considering the 420hp panamera S has the same engine, im still waiting for someone to come out with a chiptune for the macanS to bump it up... pretty sure the turbo's/etc are identical so it's just detuned so the 3.6 has a lil more gusto for the buck.


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Originally Posted by rijowysock
not even a close comparison for the prices..

the s is quick for what it is... not sure why you would need more power in a mini suv... do you do timed laps to grocery store?
No, but coming from an equally priced (equal hp, weight, etc..) A7, the Macan S feels a little slow. Turbo feels much better but probably too pricey now. 550 and S6 would net out pretty close to what I paid for the Macan S. I don't necessarily need an SUV so simply wondering if others compared it to those models.
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Originally Posted by rijowysock
the next time you drive, push the sport button.. less lag,.. sport plus is even better for lag/throttle response but the shift points are annoying..

all in all i find the macan S more than quick enough for anything i do including driving like a complete *******..

considering the 420hp panamera S has the same engine, im still waiting for someone to come out with a chiptune for the macanS to bump it up... pretty sure the turbo's/etc are identical so it's just detuned so the 3.6 has a lil more gusto for the buck.
Sports mode definitely helps. And a tune (if one ever comes out) Would probably help even more
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Originally Posted by amelen
No, but coming from an equally priced (equal hp, weight, etc..) A7, the Macan S feels a little slow. Turbo feels much better but probably too pricey now. 550 and S6 would net out pretty close to what I paid for the Macan S. I don't necessarily need an SUV so simply wondering if others compared it to those models.
I think it is a great question. Think of the S6, it has much better performance by every measure and more rear seat room, not to mention a lot bigger trunk. It is priced similar as well.

But it is not an SUV
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Doesn't a s6 start at 75k? I wouldn't say that is priced similarly to a Macan S. Granted with options a Macan S can get that high and higher but I wouldn't say out of the box they are similarly priced.
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In a perfect world we would have the choice between a Macan and an Audi RS4 Avant (which sadly is only offered in Europe). If one needed AWD for slippery roads but did not do extensive offroading, the RS4 Avant would be extremely compelling. The Audi 4.2l naturally aspirated V-8 is good for 450 hp and the lower weight & CG means it handles like a proper touring car should. Fuel economy is a wash, and the loss in cargo capacity compared to the Macan is negligible. But VWAG has decided that the Americas shall only get the A4 allroad with the 2.0 turbo 4. Thus cross-shopping the Macan against true sport wagons is impossible.

The Macan's only real competition in North America is the Audi SQ5, which definitely should be cross-driven. There are pluses and minuses to both the Macan and the SQ5 and for people who need more cargo room and better fuel economy, the Audi is actually the better configuration. For those who put more emphasis on handling, then obviously the Macan has some tricks up its sleeve.
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Originally Posted by roule
In a perfect world we would have the choice between a Macan and an Audi RS4 Avant (which sadly is only offered in Europe). If one needed AWD for slippery roads but did not do extensive offroading, the RS4 Avant would be extremely compelling. The Audi 4.2l naturally aspirated V-8 is good for 450 hp and the lower weight & CG means it handles like a proper touring car should. Fuel economy is a wash, and the loss in cargo capacity compared to the Macan is negligible. But VWAG has decided that the Americas shall only get the A4 allroad with the 2.0 turbo 4. Thus cross-shopping the Macan against true sport wagons is impossible.

The Macan's only real competition in North America is the Audi SQ5, which definitely should be cross-driven. There are pluses and minuses to both the Macan and the SQ5 and for people who need more cargo room and better fuel economy, the Audi is actually the better configuration. For those who put more emphasis on handling, then obviously the Macan has some tricks up its sleeve.
Very well said. I might add the reason I put the SQ5 on the back burner was due to the fact the Q5 is due for a complete overhaul very soon. Otherwise, I was torn on the SQ5 vs the Macan.
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Originally Posted by bmwtye
Doesn't a s6 start at 75k? I wouldn't say that is priced similarly to a Macan S. Granted with options a Macan S can get that high and higher but I wouldn't say out of the box they are similarly priced.
An S6 comes pretty loaded as-is. Base 2014 models are currently selling for close to invoice (I was offered under invoice at a local dealership) so ~$70-71k. My Macan S, moderately optioned (basically matches the standard options on the S6), came in at $66k. The S6 is still more expensive, but not by much. What helps the difference is the S6 is selling well below MSRP while Macan's are still selling at MSRP.

I have been getting used to the Macan though - in sports mode it's not too bad. However, since I don't really need an SUV (although a hatchcback would be nice to have), I still wonder if I should have considered the S6 when I made my decision.
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Originally Posted by amelen
An S6 comes pretty loaded as-is. Base 2014 models are currently selling for close to invoice (I was offered under invoice at a local dealership) so ~$70-71k. My Macan S, moderately optioned (basically matches the standard options on the S6), came in at $66k. The S6 is still more expensive, but not by much. What helps the difference is the S6 is selling well below MSRP while Macan's are still selling at MSRP.

I have been getting used to the Macan though - in sports mode it's not too bad. However, since I don't really need an SUV (although a hatchcback would be nice to have), I still wonder if I should have considered the S6 when I made my decision.
Keep in mind that from a handling perspective, the steering on the Macan is way better than the one on the S6. For me, the steering feel was the deal breaker with Audi.
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Originally Posted by rijowysock
considering the 420hp panamera S has the same engine, im still waiting for someone to come out with a chiptune for the macanS to bump it up... pretty sure the turbo's/etc are identical so it's just detuned so the 3.6 has a lil more gusto for the buck.
Maybe I'm just reading this comment wrong but the "S" is a 3.0L twin turbo and the "Turbo" has a 3.6L twin turbo.

And yes, part of my reasoning for not spending the extra $$$ on the turbo is that I expect someone to come out with a "performance enhancement" for the "S" sometime in the near future. However, I think I'll be able to get in enough trouble with the lowly S.
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