(Hopefully) Constructive "things you don't like/hate about your Macan" thread
12-06-2023, 03:19 PM
#226
Racer
One thing I don't like about the (Base) Macan (and my former 2.0 Q5) is that the electronic oil level gauge does not have any oil level data available, after the oil has been added, until after you have driven around 100 miles. There isn't a more critical time to know what the oil level than after you have added it (e.g. did I add enough, did I add too much).
I thought this was an "academic" concern, because I haven't needed to add oil between service, and was sure the dealers knew how to deal with this. Nope. After the expensive oil change during the 30k at the dealer, two days later I got an "Oil is 1 qt low" message. I bought and added a quart myself instead of going through the hassle of going back to the dealer. Then I had to wait for another couple of days of driving to confirm that the oil level was now fine.
Stupidest design I've ever seen. The 911 electronic oil has a delay on reading oil, but it's very short and gives you a countdown clock -- not a couple of days of driving
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I thought this was an "academic" concern, because I haven't needed to add oil between service, and was sure the dealers knew how to deal with this. Nope. After the expensive oil change during the 30k at the dealer, two days later I got an "Oil is 1 qt low" message. I bought and added a quart myself instead of going through the hassle of going back to the dealer. Then I had to wait for another couple of days of driving to confirm that the oil level was now fine.
Stupidest design I've ever seen. The 911 electronic oil has a delay on reading oil, but it's very short and gives you a countdown clock -- not a couple of days of driving
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12-06-2023, 03:24 PM
#227
Racer
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12-06-2023, 03:50 PM
#228
Drifting
Thread Starter
Thanks. I am aware you can add a dipstick, but I'm genuinely puzzled why they haven't fixed this for more than a decade. I say "fixed", because no engine takes days and/or 100 miles to settle out engine oil -- 99% of the oil settling is probably done in less than 30 seconds.
12-06-2023, 04:05 PM
#229
Racer
Thanks. I am aware you can add a dipstick, but I'm genuinely puzzled why they haven't fixed this for more than a decade. I say "fixed", because no engine takes days and/or 100 miles to settle out engine oil -- 99% of the oil settling is probably done in less than 30 seconds.
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12-06-2023, 04:09 PM
#230
Rennlist Member
My biggest gripe about my 2023 Macan, which only applies to '22 and later cars, is the fact that you can't manual shift with the center console shift lever. This, combined with Porsche's affinity with attaching the shift paddles to the steering wheel rather than to keep them stationary like Ferrari does it, causes an inability to shift when making tight turns at low speed.
Let me explain. You are set in manual mode for shifting and approach an intersection, coming to a stop. The car is in 1st gear. As you attempt to make a right turn the wheel needs to be turned more than 180 degrees, which can't usually be done with both hands on the wheel and paddles (unless you work in the circus). Mid-turn you feel the need to shift into 2nd gear, however the only method for doing so is located on a paddle which is currently upside down at the 10-11 o'clock position of the wheel. Therefore, in order to shift into 2nd you either need to reach over and hit the paddle mid-turn or wait until the paddle comes back to the right side of the wheel so you can hit it with your right hand. But by the time the wheel is straight enough to do that you're approaching the top range of the RPM's when you may have preferred to shift a couple thousand RPM ago.
If Porsche had kept the ability to shift using the lever in the center console the driver could simply use that to shift when the inconveniently mounted paddles are out of reach. That's what I used to do on other cars that had similar wheel-mounted paddles.
Anybody else have this gripe?
Let me explain. You are set in manual mode for shifting and approach an intersection, coming to a stop. The car is in 1st gear. As you attempt to make a right turn the wheel needs to be turned more than 180 degrees, which can't usually be done with both hands on the wheel and paddles (unless you work in the circus). Mid-turn you feel the need to shift into 2nd gear, however the only method for doing so is located on a paddle which is currently upside down at the 10-11 o'clock position of the wheel. Therefore, in order to shift into 2nd you either need to reach over and hit the paddle mid-turn or wait until the paddle comes back to the right side of the wheel so you can hit it with your right hand. But by the time the wheel is straight enough to do that you're approaching the top range of the RPM's when you may have preferred to shift a couple thousand RPM ago.
If Porsche had kept the ability to shift using the lever in the center console the driver could simply use that to shift when the inconveniently mounted paddles are out of reach. That's what I used to do on other cars that had similar wheel-mounted paddles.
Anybody else have this gripe?
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12-06-2023, 04:14 PM
#231
Racer
My biggest gripe about my 2023 Macan, which only applies to '22 and later cars, is the fact that you can't manual shift with the center console shift lever. This, combined with Porsche's affinity with attaching the shift paddles to the steering wheel rather than to keep them stationary like Ferrari does it, causes an inability to shift when making tight turns at low speed.
Let me explain. You are set in manual mode for shifting and approach an intersection, coming to a stop. The car is in 1st gear. As you attempt to make a right turn the wheel needs to be turned more than 180 degrees, which can't usually be done with both hands on the wheel and paddles (unless you work in the circus). Mid-turn you feel the need to shift into 2nd gear, however the only method for doing so is located on a paddle which is currently upside down at the 10-11 o'clock position of the wheel. Therefore, in order to shift into 2nd you either need to reach over and hit the paddle mid-turn or wait until the paddle comes back to the right side of the wheel so you can hit it with your right hand. But by the time the wheel is straight enough to do that you're approaching the top range of the RPM's when you may have preferred to shift a couple thousand RPM ago.
If Porsche had kept the ability to shift using the lever in the center console the driver could simply use that to shift when the inconveniently mounted paddles are out of reach. That's what I used to do on other cars that had similar wheel-mounted paddles.
Anybody else have this gripe?
Let me explain. You are set in manual mode for shifting and approach an intersection, coming to a stop. The car is in 1st gear. As you attempt to make a right turn the wheel needs to be turned more than 180 degrees, which can't usually be done with both hands on the wheel and paddles (unless you work in the circus). Mid-turn you feel the need to shift into 2nd gear, however the only method for doing so is located on a paddle which is currently upside down at the 10-11 o'clock position of the wheel. Therefore, in order to shift into 2nd you either need to reach over and hit the paddle mid-turn or wait until the paddle comes back to the right side of the wheel so you can hit it with your right hand. But by the time the wheel is straight enough to do that you're approaching the top range of the RPM's when you may have preferred to shift a couple thousand RPM ago.
If Porsche had kept the ability to shift using the lever in the center console the driver could simply use that to shift when the inconveniently mounted paddles are out of reach. That's what I used to do on other cars that had similar wheel-mounted paddles.
Anybody else have this gripe?
12-06-2023, 06:23 PM
#232
Drifting
Thread Starter
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However, the last loaner I received was a 95B.3, and these sensations -- the "soul" -- were diminished. I don't know if it was the larger wheels (21") or something inherent to the 95B.3 facelift such as revised PDK tuning, but that base model simply did not drive as nicely as the 95B.2 base cars did. If shopping for a used 95B.2, there is a lot to be said for the base model if you're not a John Paul Jones kind of driver. But if shopping for a new 95B.3, I'd have to say give the four-banger a miss. Or at least drive enough examples to understand what actually makes them feel so different.
Actually now that I re-read your post, mine reads the oil level fairly quickly. I just did a change a few weeks ago and it was reading within a few miles. I use a suction pump, then pour the contents into a graduated 5L cylinder so that I can read to the ML how much I pulled and thus refill fairly accurately.
12-06-2023, 09:52 PM
#233
Pro
I think the soul concept is a misnomer. A car that has "soul" is the exact opposite of the Porsche philosophy. A car should be a machine that communicates every whim of the driver to the road and vice versa. The driver should absolutely and unapologetically conquer this machine and it shouldn't be a sentient being that has its own priorities ( i.e. understeer, numb brake and steering feedback, clunky shift schedules and body roll in the opposite direction you want to go). It should stir the soul of the driver, cater to their whim, clearly transmit human input to the road and not have its own actions. The car should steer, handle, point, accelerate, shift and brake exactly as the driver's soul intends.
Last edited by wwahl; 12-06-2023 at 10:00 PM. Reason: Adding on.
12-16-2023, 11:28 PM
#234
Drifting
Thread Starter
I guess I'm more baffled by, than hate, the fact that the rear heated seats and the rear heat/climate controls don't work when the window lock button is on. Our occasional rear-seat passengers have been complaining about heated seat and rear heat not working, but I kept forgetting to check into it. Didn't take long to figure it out from a Google search, but seems like a crazy choice. The window is for kids -- that's useful -- but should we let them be cold too because we don't trust them with the windows?
12-17-2023, 09:43 AM
#235
-JR
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12-17-2023, 01:12 PM
#237
Sounds like a plain old bug. Shame there's no way to report it directly to Porsche. Safe to say the dealer won't GAF.
You could call the 1-800-PORSCHE helpline and complain, but then you could also tell your dog, and it would have the same effect.
You could call the 1-800-PORSCHE helpline and complain, but then you could also tell your dog, and it would have the same effect.
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01-09-2024, 05:10 PM
#238
Drifting
Thread Starter
What I hate (or at least don't know how to do) is that the 2018 Macan doesn't seem to have any way to change the audio settings on the Bose Premium for music played through CarPlay. On FM, I have the sound set to "Linear" mode (instead of the default surround, which sounds awful). So FM sounds great, but Pandora and Spotify Premium sounds pretty mediocre. I suspect that the sound settings for CarPlay are still set to the default "surround" mode, but haven't seen any way to adjust the sound settings when playing audio through CarPlay.
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01-09-2024, 05:17 PM
#239
Racer
What I hate (or at least don't know how to do) is that the Macan doesn't seem to have any way to change the audio settings on the Bose Premium for music played through CarPlay. On FM, I have the sound set to "Linear" mode (instead of the default surround, which sounds awful). So FM sounds great, but Pandora and Spotify Premium sounds pretty mediocre. I suspect that the sound settings for CarPlay are still set to the default "surround" mode, but haven't seen any way to adjust the sound settings when playing audio through CarPlay.
01-09-2024, 05:20 PM
#240
Drifting
Thread Starter
Sorry, should have stated -- 2018. Where did you find the settings for CarPlay in your 2019? (there's a good chance I'm just missing it on my 2018, but I looked pretty hard and couldn't find the setting)
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