blacksheepSpyder

You would think Porsche would know better.
Who knows the differences between the first gen S motor and the new S motor?

I can't find any real info on it other than car and driver fluff.

sonorous

I guess my answer would be does it really matter if it is an "Audi" engine? And what makes something an "Audi" engine? How do we know how much involvement Porsche engineers had in the development? How do we know how much Audi engineers had in the development of the first gen V6? That engine was also used in multiple Audi's right? The Macan PDK is a tweaked Audi DCT. Does that matter?

I am not an expert on the new motor but know that fundamentally it moves to a Hot V configuration. Theoretically this improves throttle response and makes a turbo motor feel closer to NA. There is a 3.0 liter version used in the S and a 2.9 liter used in the Turbo. The 2.9 is a de-stroked 3.0 with other enhancements to allow higher turbo boost pressures.

http://youwheel.com/home/2016/06/08/...3-0l-turbo-v6/
https://audi-encounter.com/en/2Turbo-V6

stilest

The hot side v6 in my 2019 Macan S is the same motor as my 2018 S5 Audi. Porsche transitioning to this motor is one of the reasons I ordered the Macan. The PDK works beautifully with the motor and the motor's linear power delivery is superb. In my opinion, it was an excellent decision on Porsche's part.

rasetsu

Because of efficiency? The Macan was already filled with Volkswagen Audi parts including the transmission and they felt the Audi 2.9T was up to par so why waste money on developing another V6 unit instead of putting the funds towards sports car development. Even though I'm a 2018 Macan owner myself, the large majority of Macan owners likely don't care which engine powers it so long as it works. I'd be willing to bet that half of the usual Macan owners never even open their own hoods.

Todd B

VW needs to pay for the diesel gate fines some how. Easy way to increase profits is to share as much as possible.

///Bruce

To your question, inexpensive and mass produced. I would venture a guess you'll find this same engine variant in VW-familied (Porsche, VW, Audi) vehicles. They're modular and easy to reconfigure.

manifold danger

True story. I've opened it once to see if I needed to detail it. I do. I may open it again to actually detail it.

I've driven a couple '19s and currently own a '15 S and can say that there is a slight difference in throttle response and to me, the NVH is slightly reduced as well. I'll also concede I might be imagining things, or the differences are owed to transmission tuning refinements or software updates. TL;DR the engines are very similar.

But the fact it's an Audi engine didn't stop me from placing a deposit on a '20 S.

jll1011

I don’t care as long as it is reliable. I am coming from a 997.1 where you worried about IMS failures or bore scoring. Porsche’s record on engine reliability is not the best. If the engine in my 2018 Macan is reliable and lasts, I will be happy. I also think a higher volume of engines being spread across Audi and Porsche lines is good for all. Will force more reliability and quality.

krabman

Economies of scale, that's really all there is to it. It's a great engine and was designed to be used across brands which means Porsche engineers had a hand in getting what they wanted out of it and much of the engineering is shared between the brands anyways. Bespoke engines are getting very rare and moving up in price point all the time. Even Ferrari finds one of it's engines having a few cylinders lopped off and being thrown in an Alpha. There won't be any transfer of lower pricing from the lesser brands on parts and maintenance though, they have to drawn a line in the sand somewhere. O_o

dak911

Audi...Porsche so what....probably means there has been a LOT more testing...we are Leasing a 2019 S..getting it Tuesday....

jll1011

Exactly. When do you think we can start bringing our Porsche’s to VW for repair. Haha.

krabman

Enjoy!

blacksheepSpyder

I guess people who rent Porsche's don't care.

dak911

These days, who knows where the "parts" come from..I guess if Porsche can find a "part" they can use, who bother re-inventing the wheel..
Engines, transmissions, electronic systems...does any manufacturer make every part?

PSEE

Alpha - first letter in the Greek alphabet. Also a motion picture film.

Alfa - a shorthand for the automobile manufacturer Alfa Romeo