CarGuyNVA

Unless of course you're lucky enough to score one of Porsche's Exclusive edition Macans

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/prod...suv-14401.html

https://www.motortrend.com/news/pors...ets-911-wheels

kv66

This x 1000! Why not just put a Honda engine in them then? Easy, because we wanted a Porsche not a Honda. I've owned several Porsches in the last 25 yrs, I love them, and it makes a difference to me when they swap out the engine of a Porsche with a VW. I'm an engineer and I do most of maintenance myself, I've noticed the difference between Porsche and VW/Audi. For example, just look at the Macan base 2.0 liter (VW EA888) engine, the plastic impeller water pump is terribly unreliable, they fail prematurely, it's been redesigned 7 or 8 times since Gen 1. The EA888 also has oil leaks galore....Oil will leak from cam bridge, oil leak from rear main seal. Don't get me started on the turbo charger, The 3rd gen turbos were switched out to IHS brand, they're not as reliable as the old Borg Warner in gen 2. By the way, the Audi V6 are only marginally better, they have reliability issues as well.

BMinSFL

Every engine has its issues, none of the Porsche iterations in the Macan are saints. The EA888 has proven to be reliable and moreso in its latest iterations. The first Porsche had a VW 4cyl so it's very historically fitting.

My Lexus had a water pump issue also. Not a big deal, a few hours and it's fixed. If there's a bigger issue, you can take it to any Euro specialist and they will know the engine inside and out from the VW/Audi applications. It makes everything cheaper while still being a pretty good powerplant for the base model. Mine has a piggyback tune and is delivering objective acceleration times similar to the V6 models, based on datalogs. I can't complain about that and it's been reliable so far. If the turbo seals leak, it's also a day's work to replace or take the opportunity to upgrade based on proven setups done 1000x over due to the larger circulation in the VAG world vs. a bespoke Porsche engine.

Not every part on the vehicle needs to be of a Porsche origin, we know that's the case for many drivetrain and suspension components. Porsche (or any car brand) are not exclusively manufacturing companies. They are design and engineering companies which choose the best component combinations from suppliers, given their constraints, then brings them together to deliver the best expression of their brand.

chassis

The VW crankshaft engineer sits next to the Audi camshaft engineer who sits next to the Porsche piston engineer.

Engine labelling is meaningless in a company in the top three largest automakers in the world, like VAG. In the end, everything is parts bin.

Models and brands simply contain different assortments from the parts bin.

BMinSFL

It doesn't end there either. You have Aston Martin using the Mercedes engine, Rolls Royce using the BMW engine and then obviously Lamborghini using the Audi engine in some applications. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just what was best suited within the constraints and company goals at the time.
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chassis

Agree. Look at the interior of Astons, with the now-outdated COMAND scroll wheel, taken directly from the MB parts bin. Aston put leather trim around it, but it's unmistakably Mercedes, and a generation behind in UI.

wwahl

The pair of dice that hang from my rearview mirror come from Kmart. They may be the most original part of my car.

Pretorien

I've never been a big Audi fan - 50 years ago, +/-, I chose a Saab 99 over the Audi 100. (The Saab, BTW, used half a Triumph V-8 as motive power) When, having decided that Volvo was going in the wrong way to my mind, I began looking for a replacement for my 2015 V60, my first stop was at an Audi dealer. I was not looking for an SUV - live alone, no children or dogs to accommodate but I do like the convenience and ease of loading a "hatchback" (My first wagon was a '67 Chrysler needed to haul my Irish Wolfhound) so I drove a 5 something wagon and, because it was sitting on the lot a A7? S7? hatchback. Once I managed to get past the awful "Hapsburg Lip" front end of both cars, I was astounded by differences in chassis refinement between both Audi's and my Volvo - whose chassis, by comparison, seemed to have been designed in the Conestoga wagon works.
At that point, the next logical step (and I am a logical person, an ex-wife used to refer to me as "Mr. Spock") was a visit to a nearby Porsche dealer - I was vaguely aware of the Macan and Cayenne. After a brief discussion, the salesman suggested I try the Macan before the Cayenne Coupe, my initial inquiry. I took the car for an hour drive over my usual test circuit - a combination of expressway driving, some smooth but tightly twisted back roads, a few "rough" patches and a hill section. I came back with disbelief pasted all over my face. Now, my 70+ years of driving has included some track time. I am not about to drive at 10/10ths on public roads so I can't say if the absolute limits of the Porsche were higher, lower or the same as the Audi's but, for my "quick but not hard" driving style, the absolutely "no fuss" progress of the Porschewas the winner. The best description that I can find: The car seemed to be reading my mind. I would give it a hint, action was taken and it felt like the car then "said:" OK, next? During a subsequent visit I tried a Panamera - just the same or perhaps a hair better - however my "chassis" dates from 1936 so the low stance is abit of an entry/exit issue (another Panamera issue - no spare tire - my 1000+ mile summer road trips take my to less than heavily populated areas and, speaking of corporate cousins, the 7 series Audi hatchbacks are close to, but slightly smaller than the Panamera but they do fit a spare - what gives?
Well, after a little more due diligence, a 2018 CPO ES spoke to me and, after a year+, I still get a grin on my face when I crank it up. (Note added in proof - after driving examples of both the I4 and V6 cars, I decided that there was a difference that I could feel and preferred the lighter front end)
Porsche has made some questionable engine choices (the Hirth roller bearing cranks of the 50's - don't downshift>lug the engine>destroy the crankshaft) but, in the chassis tuning department, pure wizardry.

Russian Mafia

The Turbo dice cost more but are manufactured in Germany.

2am

There is nothing exclusive about a macan
If your ego is not stroked enough, perhaps a G-wagon will do a better job.

rasetsu

95B.1 Macan with Porsche developed 3.0 and 3.6 engines suffered from timing chain cover and valve cover oil leaks. Mine has experienced both issues. I also have an Audi RS 5 with the same amount of miles that hasn't leaked a drop. Are Porsche oil leaks somehow more excusable than VW/Audi oil leaks?

Larson E. Rapp

Exactly. Those "authentic" Porsche engines didn't exactly distinguish themselves.

VAGfan

On the Porsche V6 engine, don't forget about the plastic coolant pipe (under the intake manifold) that cracks and leaks...