GT4 RS in the works? Rumors of a 4.0...
01-31-2017, 02:02 AM
#196
01-31-2017, 03:28 AM
#197
If you look at what Porsche (and Apple, etc.) has done since the beginning of time is add very incremental improvement with each model leaving margin for the next model. Like adding 20hp. That's what Porsche does.
Anyone thinking the next GT4 will be much more than 405-415hp needs to revisit Porsche model history. So, then how do they achieve say 415hp?
A slightly juiced normal 3.8, slightly juiced 2.5 turbo 4, a massively detuned GT3 based 3.8/4.0, or the new 3.0L TT engine in the new Carreras, OR a tweaked NA version of the new 3.0 flat six.
My prediction is a derivative of the 3.0 motor either with or without snails. It's a sweet engine for sure and I'd like to know what Porsche could do with a high revving NA version. Or heck, I'll take the TT as I LOVED it in the Carrera S I recently drove. Thrust basically all over the tachometer which would be a nice change of pace from the flat feeling under 5k rpm current 3.8 in our GT4's.
Anyone thinking the next GT4 will be much more than 405-415hp needs to revisit Porsche model history. So, then how do they achieve say 415hp?
A slightly juiced normal 3.8, slightly juiced 2.5 turbo 4, a massively detuned GT3 based 3.8/4.0, or the new 3.0L TT engine in the new Carreras, OR a tweaked NA version of the new 3.0 flat six.
My prediction is a derivative of the 3.0 motor either with or without snails. It's a sweet engine for sure and I'd like to know what Porsche could do with a high revving NA version. Or heck, I'll take the TT as I LOVED it in the Carrera S I recently drove. Thrust basically all over the tachometer which would be a nice change of pace from the flat feeling under 5k rpm current 3.8 in our GT4's.
02-03-2017, 01:56 PM
#198
Racer
2019 Porsche 911 will use only turbo six-cylinder engines and get hybrid
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...and-get-hybrid
this may apply to the Cayman - the question is will a GT4 or GT4RS in the works and what engine will be used (4CYL Turbo or 6CYL Turbo)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...and-get-hybrid
this may apply to the Cayman - the question is will a GT4 or GT4RS in the works and what engine will be used (4CYL Turbo or 6CYL Turbo)
02-03-2017, 01:58 PM
#199
Three Wheelin'
2019 Porsche 911 will use only turbo six-cylinder engines and get hybrid
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...and-get-hybrid
this may apply to the Cayman - the question is will a GT4 or GT4RS in the works and what engine will be used (4CYL Turbo or 6CYL Turbo)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...and-get-hybrid
this may apply to the Cayman - the question is will a GT4 or GT4RS in the works and what engine will be used (4CYL Turbo or 6CYL Turbo)
02-03-2017, 05:57 PM
#200
02-03-2017, 07:36 PM
#201
Rennlist Member
As with so much else here, so much speculation. I've been around when comments like the ones in these types are articles are said...and there is a lot of wiggle room. "Oh, we meant all STANDARD PRODUCTION versions of the 911 will be turbocharged after 20xx..." 982 GT4, 982 GT4 RS, 982 GT4 "X", etc...992-1 GT3, 992-1 GT2, etc....it's just too soon to even really guess. It may be fun, but we've seen the guesses come back wrong again and again and again.
As for the 991-2 turbo 3.0...I like it better than any of the 991-1 engines, including the one in our GT4s. It's really good, and NOT laggy. Have yet to drive a 991-2 that I don't like better than its predecessor, and I didn't feel that way about 991-1 vs 997-2.
As for the 991-2 turbo 3.0...I like it better than any of the 991-1 engines, including the one in our GT4s. It's really good, and NOT laggy. Have yet to drive a 991-2 that I don't like better than its predecessor, and I didn't feel that way about 991-1 vs 997-2.
02-03-2017, 09:44 PM
#202
GT3 player par excellence
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^ yes
no need to guess
look through the cross hair
when target presents itself, fire and kill
all talk, guess, rumor is for girls
no need to guess
look through the cross hair
when target presents itself, fire and kill
all talk, guess, rumor is for girls
02-04-2017, 09:59 AM
#203
Three Wheelin'
I placed my deposit with the local dealer for a GT4RS yesterday, for MSRP. First on the list, but the GM said "I'll take your deposit, but its not even a car yet". I believe it's less than 50/50 chance they make it, but I still would love to get that car!!
Still, it's a reasonable investment to let the deposit sit there for a year, just in case they build it.
Still, it's a reasonable investment to let the deposit sit there for a year, just in case they build it.
02-07-2017, 01:46 AM
#206
Three Wheelin'
02-07-2017, 02:03 PM
#207
Burning Brakes
The last GT4 was priced close to the base 911. I can see a GT4RS priced close to the current 911S. There was obviously more demand for the GT4 than Porsche anticipated and they aren't going to leave money on the table given out how much VW is paying out for diesel-gate.
Also, the GT-cars without daily driving comfort options target a different customer base than the road going 911s.
Also, the GT-cars without daily driving comfort options target a different customer base than the road going 911s.
02-07-2017, 02:16 PM
#208
Is the dealer going to pay you interest on your "investment"? If not, then what you are paying is an option price equal to the opportunity cost of the money sitting there for a year. May not be a bad price to pay for the option of being first right to purchase the car if it materializes.
02-08-2017, 04:25 AM
#209
Pro
Is the dealer going to pay you interest on your "investment"? If not, then what you are paying is an option price equal to the opportunity cost of the money sitting there for a year. May not be a bad price to pay for the option of being first right to purchase the car if it materializes.
Having zero ROI on the deposit is a very small price to pay to have a chance at an allocation from a dealer that actually stands by their agreements.
02-11-2017, 09:02 PM
#210
Originally Posted by 2slow2speed
Not the OP that you replied to but I have had my deposit for. a GT4RS at a non-CA dealer at MSRP for over a year and a half.
Having zero ROI on the deposit is a very small price to pay to have a chance at an allocation from a dealer that actually stands by their agreements.
Having zero ROI on the deposit is a very small price to pay to have a chance at an allocation from a dealer that actually stands by their agreements.