sonorous

Thanks, it looks like you have a current gen SJ nicely setup so probably not a huge reason to upgrade. The current Enduro and SJ share a lot of DNA. You have to ask yourself if you really want/need an Enduro. It is heavier, slacker, softer... But it sure comes alive when you point it downhill! It is probably a little too much bike for me and my local conditions but with the extra travel and slacker head angle I really like the confidence it inspires on sketchy terrain like rock gardens and steep rollers. I am coming from a '15 E29 S-Works so I already knew I liked what the Enduro offers. You can't go wrong with either weapon however!

VLJ

Mooty I'm not especially young, 32 and fractured my neck and back in 2014 summer so I feel older. Thankfully I'm in good shape and still flexible so I'm very comfortable low as can be. Arione 00...Arione is only saddle that needs to exist.

mooty

34 lol
i'm almost 50

good shape but not flexible
maybe i put arione 00 back on. at least i will LLOK
fast

drwuss

Sonorous, have you used any 27+ wheels yet? If not you should sometime. The lower bb feels pretty cool and the stopping power is awesome.

VLJ, do you mtb at all or just road? If mtb next time I am at SOMO I will let you know.

Mooty, do you go to sea otter?

VLJ

No, MTB is too hard.

mooty

i been to sea otter to watch. never raced in it. those guys are all insane; i think tinker did 24 hour all by himself? i met overand at otter once, really cool dude. oh i also rode with gary fisher on hoo koo e koo once. i was decently fast back then 20 years ago. then some old fart in giligan island sort of hat, t shirt and baggy pants, blew by me like i was parked. when i got to him at the peak, we chatted and he introduced himself as THE gary fisher.

haha 27+ wheels. i retired by then.

and dirty
those know berkeley area, i rode up and down tilden, quarry, redwood, and some illegal hidden trail up there. often end up with blood all over. once i biffed and drove quickly (bike on top my e36 328i) to office to clean up. cop pulled me over. saw blood all over legs and left arm... told me to follow him. sirens on, we ended up at highland hospital in oakland

i was way more insane back then. now i am actually NORMAL haha

drwuss

Don't go drinking with Gary fisher. Or at least not with a low tolerance like I have

sonorous

The ability to run a plus setup is one of the big benefits of the '17. I have not yet, but very excited to try it. I plan to grab a loaner set from my LBS and test it out but I suspect I will buy a full wheel set and tires to swap at will. I think the traction will be a huge benefit especially in the winter. It seems like a good compromise vs. going with a fat bike for NY metro conditions.

texasviany

LMFAO....we need a new thread.

Someone made a comment about Austin being flat. Every fall we have a 100 mile ride called "The Das Hugel" Total ascent runs from 10,000 ft to 13,000 ft depending on the route. The route is so compact...many climbs are close to 20%

Come on to Austin!

sonorous

But this thread is the cyclist's trojan horse into the GT4 forum

drwuss

My dad lives in Austin, when is the 10k climbing ride?

tasman

we have a few rides in the driftless area here in wisconsin where you can get in 10,000 feet or more of climbing in 100 miles. There are also longer distances with more climbing feet. No long hills just short and steep ones. Rare flats. Seems like after a while you are either going up or down.

Bill Lehman

My first bike was a BSA 3 speed (1953), the first in the neighborhood that wasn't a Schwin. Current ride is a Cannondale (USA built) Road Warrior (Hybrid). My usual ride is an out and back 10 mile run over rolling terrain. I'm 72.

mooty

20% grade...
i would need to put a 53 chain ring on the rear cog

nice.

old shcool schwinn paramount is a superb bike. i hope i can still ride at 72

rode today at 35*F. slow as fk. ugh....

late 2016 wet dry sunny ride

https://www.relive.cc/view/759812932

texasviany

Its run in both October and November. I plan to run it this year.