Orthojoe's GT4 track thread and ramblings
#257
I can't recall people complaining about the gas gauge but I was constantly getting low fuel warnings when I still had half a tank. Annoying! Does anyone use their SoloDL to look at fuel level? Curious if the same data that causes the low fuel warning in the dash also causes the fuel level on the Solo to be skewed.
The oem brake pads suck. Not much bite and not much feel. They wear quickly too. There is so much swept area on this car that slowing the car down was never a problem in spite of the crummy pads. Really awesome they put these brakes on this car!!
Huge rear grip on the car. I took the car to a short, tight track with one sharp, steeply uphill corner that becomes a showcase for every car's lack of rear grip and/or lack of a good LSD. The GT4 did just fine here. Surprisingly easy to put the power down.
There doesn't appear to be a huge difference in the level or the threshold at which PSM and traction control intervene when they are on or off. I liked that. Might as well leave everything off. Others here agree?
I thought I was good at heel and toe. Who needs auto-blip, right? I DO!!! Geez, it's fantastic. Makes me feel like I'm cheating.
Orthojoe I've missed your ramblings! You really need to get to the track more often.
Last edited by orthojoe; 04-20-2016 at 01:47 AM.
#258
Other than the low range warnings discussed here, I had wrong fuel gauge reading once. It happened after the car spinned 360 (in the paddock). After restarting the car, fuel gauge showed 1bar only in the red zone. It wouldn't go away even if I restart the engine. I tried driving for a while but it still showed 1bar so I was concerned. I went to fill up the tank. I was only able to put in a few gallons so the tank was nowhere near the 1bar range. The gauge started to work properly after the refuel. Not sure what happened there. Maybe the excessive G force from the spin messed up the fuel sensor position. Luckily this never happened again nor did I ever spin the car in the paddock after that.
#261
The car seemed to push just a touch more than before. My tire wear looks no better, so I'm thinking of going back to the middle settings again. Or maybe leaving the rear on full stiff.
I swapped my wheels left to right after my first track day since I went back to Thill again to even out the biased right right wear. This is what one front tire looks like after 2 track days (10 sessions total)
And the other front tire:
I swapped my wheels left to right after my first track day since I went back to Thill again to even out the biased right right wear. This is what one front tire looks like after 2 track days (10 sessions total)
And the other front tire:
Below are pics of my front tires after one day at Thompson Speedway. This is a clockwise track with 11 turns, 3 left, 8 right. Fairly tight turns and a longish main straight.
My set-up:
OE Cup 2's
Rear monoballs
-2.5 front camber
-2.0 rear camber
DSC Sport module
Front sway - middle
Rear sway - stiffest
Joe, I am seeing the same wear pattern as you on my front left. This is after five sessions and 73 1.7 mile laps with about 2000 street miles.
I am going to swap front tires for the next track day, but this looks like it will be only 2, may maybe 3 track days out of the front tires.
Have a set of front Cup 2's waiting in the garage since I had read about the the wear problems.
Left front
Right front
#262
I was my first time on track with the GT4. I used to drive a AWD DSG audi so there was a lot getting used to in the new car. It was pouring hard and the traction is very limited in the cup2. So my instructor decided to do some emergency training in the paddock to show me what happens when you push the car beyond its limit. Car understeered but didn't spin no matter how much gas I gave as long as TC is on. I tried really hard to break it completely lose but it didn't work at least at low speed. Once TC is turned off then all bets are off. It snapped into a spin. So I now leave the TC on all the time.
#263
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Don't junk the tires prematurely. Unless they're clearly heat-cycle out, the tires still have life in them even after the grooves in the outer third of the tire are completely gone.
#264
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#268
Joe, I am seeing the same wear pattern as you on my front left. This is after five sessions and 73 1.7 mile laps with about 2000 street miles.
I am going to swap front tires for the next track day, but this looks like it will be only 2, may maybe 3 track days out of the front tires.
Have a set of front Cup 2's waiting in the garage since I had read about the the wear problems.
Left front
#269
Yes, I would swap tires left to right if you are going back to another CW track next. The problem is that tread ring in the central portion of the tire that is being 'windswept' or 'washed' sideways. The tread is beveled now. I have the same problem and I'm stuck between raising the tire pressures to decrease outer edge wear or lowering pressures to decrease the central 'ring' from being swept away. GT3 does the same thing. It's a result of the tread design of the cup2s. TrofeoR don't do this and the rears dont do this because the central 'rings' are much thicker/wider, I believe.
In the PCA Clubsport Setup sheet it shows camber -3.5 front and -3.1 rear. It also says "slick 2 bar" which even know though the sheet is in German seems to mean slick tire pressure should be 29 PSI?? I assume hot?? Granted racing slicks have stiffer sidewalls than Cup 2's so pressures that low may by unworkable. But, with more camber and less pressure it would seem to move the wear more to the outer ribs and adjust the angle of the center rib so that you decrease the beveling? The Clubsport camber is probably too aggressive for a street driven car, but maybe the excess inner treadwear from a very aggressive camber setting and lower pressures would work would be a good tradeoff for less beveling?
Running 34 hot in the front now. May try running lower front pressures at Limerock next week and see what kind of tread temps and wear I get. Limerock is 6 rights and one left CW track, so harder on the outer front left. Will see how it goes.
#270
Originally Posted by rraustin
Probably switch to Trofeo R after the cup 2's are done.
In the PCA Clubsport Setup sheet it shows camber -3.5 front and -3.1 rear. It also says "slick 2 bar" which even know though the sheet is in German seems to mean slick tire pressure should be 29 PSI?? I assume hot?? Granted racing slicks have stiffer sidewalls than Cup 2's so pressures that low may by unworkable. But, with more camber and less pressure it would seem to move the wear more to the outer ribs and adjust the angle of the center rib so that you decrease the beveling? The Clubsport camber is probably too aggressive for a street driven car, but maybe the excess inner treadwear from a very aggressive camber setting and lower pressures would work would be a good tradeoff for less beveling?
Running 34 hot in the front now. May try running lower front pressures at Limerock next week and see what kind of tread temps and wear I get. Limerock is 6 rights and one left CW track, so harder on the outer front left. Will see how it goes.
In the PCA Clubsport Setup sheet it shows camber -3.5 front and -3.1 rear. It also says "slick 2 bar" which even know though the sheet is in German seems to mean slick tire pressure should be 29 PSI?? I assume hot?? Granted racing slicks have stiffer sidewalls than Cup 2's so pressures that low may by unworkable. But, with more camber and less pressure it would seem to move the wear more to the outer ribs and adjust the angle of the center rib so that you decrease the beveling? The Clubsport camber is probably too aggressive for a street driven car, but maybe the excess inner treadwear from a very aggressive camber setting and lower pressures would work would be a good tradeoff for less beveling?
Running 34 hot in the front now. May try running lower front pressures at Limerock next week and see what kind of tread temps and wear I get. Limerock is 6 rights and one left CW track, so harder on the outer front left. Will see how it goes.
For the record, I hate trofeoR. Way too fussy with pressures, and while the Front tires last longer, the rears on the GT3 will wear out after 2 track days.