I don't think the GT4 was supposed to be a racecar. Porsche just released the details on the actual GT4 racecar .

Needless to say it is a extremely capable "track" car that also works on the street. You can call it whatever you want though .

 

Well said!

 

The 4k extra he spends will be well worth it when he resells. Look at how much more GT3's with LWB seats sell for. They also sell much quicker. I would say you would be burning money by not getting buckets. You could easily trade for sofas +$5-6k.

 

I totally agree with you on resale - you're absolutely right. 100%. It's very astute to think that way.

I buy stocks to make money, though. When it comes to cars I'm a pure enthusiast. Buy what you like and enjoy it. Whatever it is. If you're ditching a car because it doesn't have carbon fiber reinforced plastic seats it's probably the right thing for you. It may behoove you to drive the car first, though.

 

Truth.

 

I didn't buy the car as an investment . The extra 5k in my pocket now is worth more than the hypothetical resale value and timing (to me) .

What do I know about investing though...

 

I didn't buy the car for an investment either but you were the one that brought up burning through 5k on seats. Most of us can afford the 5k on seats if we are buying this car.

 

I'm sure we all know how to make money and that is why we are on this forum. I brought it up to make a point.

 

Agreed, to me the value of the seats is not worth 5k in either present or future value.

Someone was trying to make a point that it was worth it based on resale value alone. Which may or may not be true depending on where you put that hypothetical 5k you saved. Oh and how long you plan on keeping the car.

My final point is I don't see the value. Others seem to and that is fine too. Do whatever makes you happy.

I just thought it was odd people who have never even driven the car would pass on allocation solely because of seats. Maybe it is a Porsche thing .

Either way have fun gents, I know I will be .

 

I have no clue how to make money personally, but I know I won't try to make money on a car anytime soon. Learned my lesson on that one. I'm not that smart.

We're all on this forum because we love cars. In this forum, specifically the GT4.

Whatever car you end up buying, for whatever reason, I sincerely hope you enjoy it.

 

I guess that it is normal on an enthusiast forum like this that people get fixated on details and these details start to be the tail wagging the dog. People here are also mindful of money and have some pride and ego involved in 'buying a car, reselling it later, and enjoyed driving it/owing it for free'... all of which is understandable and but surprising to me.

Like Andy, I feel this is fundamentally an expensive hobby/passion, and one pays to play. One can spend a lot of time and effort to try to get something generally costly (and other people typically pay for) for free, but in this realm of cool sports cars and Porsches in particular I would just rather rest that part of my brain and enjoy play time. I'll spend my work time to make money and be able to spend more money and time on 'play time'. And to me, 'play time' means enjoying owing and driving the cars!

 

I think others have responded similarly, but to chime in....

My issue with LWB is my size. Not particularly fat, but at 5'11" and running around 200lbs with a relatively athletic build, my upper body sometime doesn't fit in racing seats. Have had no issue sitting in the 18 ways, but have no idea how they compare. I need to find a GT3 or GT4 with the LWBs and an accommodating owner to see if I can actually be comfortable. If so, then LWB it is.

I'm pretty sure I am not alone, after all, this is 'merica....home of the XL man!

 

The whole point of this thread was to discuss LWB seat delays and somehow it turns into a thread for everyone to defend their reasoning for getting sofas. The bottom line is that for me and many others the bucket seats are worth the 4k we pay/paid and the wait. Half of rhe GT3 guys would not consider owning a car without LWBs either. Like I said, to me it completes the overall look and feel of the car. Having sat in a GT3 with LWB and sofas, I personally would not get a GT4 without them. If the GT4 had 435 hp and shorter gearing I would probably overlook it, but it doesn't and it isn't perfect. If I couldn't get a GT4 with LWB, there are many other great cars to buy. That being said, my car is being built and I should have it in two months with LWB seats. I'm glad I waited the extra 10 weeks to get the exact car I wanted, instead of listening to some who told me just to take an earlier build date. I hope the LWB seat issue gets resolved and that everyone can enjoy their cars, sofas or LWBs.

 

I think you should fit fine in them with your athletic build, but definitely try them out before you decide on them.

 

I bet I could sell each of my LWBS right now for $10k each. There is a reason why Porsche started to put the car model on the headrest VS the Porsche Crest. The GT4 will be a hot seller in the secondary market no matter what seat it has. With that said the LWBS will bring a premium and will be more sought after. Its been that way in all Porsches that have had a Sport Bucket seat option.

Anyways.... good luck to all that want LWBS! Hope the delay does not last long.