The latter is possible. It appears that dealers have not been able get a firm answer as to which case it is from PAG. Sad

Retrofit will be expensive

 

And for GT4, you cannot select LWBs in Porsche Germany Configurator anymore.
There is only the old foldable bucket seat available (from 987/997 generation).

Funny - you can try to select the Clubsport package and it gives an error. And it doesnt accept the foldable buckets for Clubsport. They have the harness openings although.

 

I guess the question is, if you are in the market for a gt4 and you don't get one because of lack of lwb, what do you buy instead? Anything else will be much more of a compromise than sofas in a gt4 would be.

 

So what you are saying is LWBS appeal to 90% of buyers?

I tell you what... there sure is a big riff about some uncomfortable hard to get in and out of useless LWBS. I cannot recall so much being discussed about a seat option.

IMO they are a perfect fit between track and street use. The LWBS will bring more $$$ in the secondary market one day as well.

 

Oops, double post.

 

Not sure on the % of buyers who are drawn to LWBs. Feel free to reference the handy dandy GT4 database for that info.

My main point are...

1.) Seats don't make a car and if you pass on a GT4 allocation because of a lack of LWBs... Well I won't finish that sentence.

2.) LWBs are not the best track seat. So any hardcore track guy/gal would most likely not care. Well I take that back. If you are on the larger size then LWBs may be sufficient for at least holding you in place .

3.) If you have them and you like them, congrats!

4.) If you passed on them and you are happy, congrats!

5.) If you have an allocation but can't get them just be happy you have allocation. Try and keep the whining and temper tantrums to a minimum .

 

^^^^^ The percentage of LWBS in the database was flawed at the beginning because the LWBS was not readily available. It has since seen a huge up tick. I believe a lot of people settled for the sofas but would of rather had the LWBS... you cannot fault them for that. the other thing we are missing is cars in other countries. What % are they getting LWBS?

 

^It would be great to have an international DB going..

 

Check out the latest database. The floodgates for LWB's have opened up for September and October builds.

 

Seats may be important to some people. For me if I am going to spend 100k on a car, I want it exactly how I spec it. The bucket seats complete the overall interior look for me. It isn't like the GT4 is a perfect car either, if it had some shorter gear ratios I could probably overlook the seats. My car is supposed to be in production right now with LWB seats, if for some reason I cannot get them someone can take my car on delivery.

 

Why do I get the feeling that so many (non/prospective) owners who post in here against LWBs because

1) they couldn't get them
2) the "boss" said NO
3) they want to DD and have luxury
4) flip
5) your thoughts here

 

Thanks for actually saying it! The LWBs are a design choice. They're not race seats, and they're not fitted seats. They look really cool. People want them because they look really cool. And I get that. I completely get that.

I also think people deserve to get exactly what they want when they order a car. If it's an option, everyone should be able to order it. Not having a 3rd party supplier situation sorted should not become a customer's problem.

I'm not crazy-for or crazy-against LWBs. Or any other option for this car. I'm crazy about the car itself. I can't find a way to get crazy excited about fake race seats. Just can't.

Wanting to pass on a car for the seat, though, is a touch bewildering. Not to say it's wrong, but I don't understand it. A make-or-break design choice?

Are we buying this car for design aesthetics or for what it inherently is as a product? Shouldn't it be the latter; or both?

I applaud anyone who wants to pass on their order if they don't get LWBs. I'm sure dealers will be able to pass those cars onto people who will be delighted with the overall product.

 

Freedom of speech. I respect that. Plus everyone is an expert when it comes to hot topics like : sports,politics,cars etc.

 

1. Not many will admit it!
2. See answer in 1.
3. See answer in 2.
4. See answer in 3.
5. I agree...If LWBS would have been available from the jump 80% of GT4s would have them. I am right on this so there is no since in arguing.
The internet is mine for now

 

Let's see how long it will stay like thay