Andy how long have you owned Porsches? In the Porsche world I know Factory options are king! You start adding anything aftermarket and your cars value goes down the tubes. As far as a fake race seats why stop there? The whole GT4 is a fake race car along with the 95% of its fake race car drivers. I think that's the point you are missing. None of us are going to win the Rolex 24 ( well BGB might ) Since we are going to play pretend we want as close to the real deal as we can get while maintaining safety.

Beating the dead horse one more time.. LWBS offer airbags...aftermarket buckets do not. No flame intended

 

I dont know the market in US. But in Germany, factory options are very important. It defines the value of the car long term and how fast it can exchange hands.

Even if you get the LWBs from spare parts, it will not show up in the Factory delivery list. The numbers of the seats will not match to the cars. Hence not very favorable.

If the car is not German spec, e.g. US spec, the value drops. My Cayenne Turbo was finished for Italy and my dealer was initially concerned that car might be US spec as it is not fully compliant with EU regulations out of the box.

 

No flame perceived This is my second Porsche.

It's not a fake race car IMO. It's an amazing road car that will work on the track for those that rightly want to do that (I hope to be in that group someday). Nothing they did to make it work on the track has compromised it as a road car. It's also a car people can grow into in terms of adjustability, etc. All those parts work.

If it's a fake race car it should also come with a fake plastic trophy to complete the package. It we're playing dressup we should have the full playset, right?

I'm not against people indulging in their race fantasies, but it's still possible without fake race seats, though.

That being said, I used to have a neighbor who sat at the end of his driveway in his car making fake racecar sounds. I moved.

 

It would be a shame if people passed on the GT4 because of the seats. IMO.

 

I had an early enough allocation that I would have been able to spec LWBs. Luckily, I dodged that bullet because I had a chance to try them out before my order locked. Loved the looks, hated how they felt. If I'm going to spend $100K on a car, it better damn well be comfortable.

Now that I have my car and have a) tracked it; and b) taken a long road trip, I can unequivocally say that the 18-ways are perfect (for me). They're plenty supportive on the track (helped by the Alcantara inserts) and supremely comfortable for long hauls.

 

I would say 1-4 cover 95 percent of people. Otherwise I do not see any other reason not to spec LWB's. The seats separate the interior from looking like an ordinary GTS or S.

 

The reason not to spec LWBs is that they're uncomfortable for people whose body shapes don't fit them well. I'm going to daily drive my car a fair amount, and I don't like the way they feel.

For those who think they're as or more comfortable than the sofas, that's great, but I think it would be stupid to buy a $100,000 car with uncomfortable seats because they look good. When it comes to seats, I'll take function over form every day.

 

There shouldn't be any reason to guess or assume though, because people who didn't order LWBs are on this thread; and they seem to be communicating fairly well.

 

If you think about the alternative of adding a race seat if you buy sofa's, why not flip it around. Get the buckets and add sofas for long drives. Sofa's are easier and cheaper to find and you get the best of all worlds. I have both for the GT3 and they are easy to swap.

The nature of this car is dual use. The buckets to me represent the best compromise in the seat dept. I've driven GT cars with and without them and with race seats. I prefer buckets.

 

Exactly, most fall within the in the 1-4 of what ExMB posted.

 

Oh, really...

Well, I'll pitch in.

The coast was clear for me to order them, and I didn't because on balance I didn't want them.

I'm not a flipper, I wasn't told 'no', I wasn't shopping for a luxury car, and the boss specs her own cars.

Lots of reasons for, and lots of reasons against. In short, not for me.

There's some propaganda here that everyone wanted them and some people could get them (group A), and some people just couldn't (group B).. There's a third group: people who wanted one of the other two seats (Group C).

I for one feel bad for those that wanted them and couldn't get them.

 

5) because spending ~5k on a fake/race inspired seat is not worth it for some

Side note: It may fit you snug if you a larger guy but in the end it is not a race bucket

I may have been willing to splurge on seats for pure looks if they were cheaper...but ~5k buys a lot of tires and pads

In the end it is your money. Burn it however you want.

 

I would at least see if someone will let you drive a GT4 first. Hell I will take you for some laps at MSR Cresson later this month if you like. I think the overall package is pretty impressive and wouldnt want to see someone pass on the car...especially if they haven't even driven or rode in one.

Hit me up. I will be instructing at MSR on 10/24 if you want to come and see the GT4 in action. This offer goes for anyone else. Well at least current owners/prospective owners. I don't want to be giving rides all day long

 

I DD a 991C2S PDK.

Hoping to add GT4 as a toy.

If I can't get LWB, I think I'll pass. Agree with posters above, I am spending a fair chunk of change. I am getting exactly what I want or I am passing. PTS I can give up, LWB is a must for me. If I am getting a GT car, I wants seats that are special for GT cars. Comfort is 50/50 for me sofa/LWB. I have other vehicles that are much better for long drives. Sure, I want the LWB partly for looks. Much like the aero and wing, it doesn't come into play unless you are on the track driving 8/10s or above. It is more form than function until you start really pushing it.

rant over.

 

From AP on the limited options: "We spent 24 months defining the optimum DNA - it makes no sense at all to let the customer tweak it"

That I can agree with.

If you think the DNA is in your seat then umm... Please clean up afterwards.