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Old 05-17-2022 | 12:09 PM
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My car was completed on February 22. They held it until my pickup (requested date) of early May. They definitely try to work with you to help you get your date.
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Old 05-17-2022 | 09:45 PM
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FWIW - My understanding is that the ability to hold a car for ED following completion of build is definitely different between Leipzig and Zuffenhausen. I have heard Leipzig can manage to hold a car for multiple months (including several reports of 4-5 months). Typically, Zuffenhausen has been limited to holding cars for one month or less because of storage space limitations. I also understand that COVID has impacted hold times in both locations as PAG tries to accommodate greater variation in build schedules. Regardless of pick-up location, my understanding is that the vehicle must be completed and paid for approximately one month before delivery can take place .... give or take a couple days. I am not 100% certain on the accuracy of all the above, but am reasonably confident that the timeframes are pretty close.
Old 05-18-2022 | 10:02 AM
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This was before Build Back Bleaker, but the limitations are not that rigid.
If you push, (or are lucky) they will sit on the car for 3 months, I did that in 2019.

But a few weeks ago we picked up the Macan that was built 02-25-22 and the only pickup day that they had for us was April 28th and it was either the given date, or cancel ED…

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Contract says max Km is 6000, three times I handed back the car double or triple that.
No problem.
I received dozens of speeding tickets. None arrived but don’t try it in Switzerland.

Bring cash, your non-pin credit card won’t work in many places.
If police pulls you over, it’s often a corrupt cash deal. You do t want to be guided to the nearest ATM that’s out of paper just to discover the Amex won’t work…
Some track days don’t take credit card so again, cash.




In 2015 you could keep your car there for up to 6 months, did that with the Macan. Just had to pay Insurance ($1000 a month +\-.
In 2019 it was maximum 3 months.

I didn’t pay attention how long was available a few weeks ago when we picked up the New Macan because I only had two weeks..

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Old 05-18-2022 | 12:18 PM
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Unlike us common folks, Pete get the Police Escort around town
Old 05-18-2022 | 12:38 PM
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I understand Porsche provides insurance to cover the value of your car when driving around Europe but what about liability insurance? My State Farm agent tells me my liability coverage for my policy does not apply in Europe. Did Porsche offer an additional liability policy like Hertz or Other car rental companies offer at the time of rental?
Old 05-18-2022 | 08:25 PM
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I understand Porsche provides insurance to cover the value of your car when driving around Europe but what about liability insurance? My State Farm agent tells me my liability coverage for my policy does not apply in Europe. Did Porsche offer an additional liability policy like Hertz or Other car rental companies offer at the time of rental?
If you’re worried about that I’d suggest moving everything into a Trust and getting an umbrella policy. My car insurance has high liability, but can’t touch my umbrella.
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Got word today, in the 11th hour, that I am all set for my Cayenne Turbo pickup on June 10 in Zuffenhausen (missing Burmester amp was finally sourced and installed) Will be a 3 week bucket list trip for my old man and I

Peter is spot on that you do not, under any circumstances, want to get a speeding ticket in Switzerland... holy hell was that a furious and painful lesson learned back in 2018 speaking for myself

For what it's worth Porsche held my Cayenne for 3 months, finished production on 3/11. Glad to hear factory tours seem to be resuming!


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Old 05-20-2022 | 07:19 AM
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As long as we are talking about speeding - In Europe ( Switzerland/Getmany/Austria/Italy) do they give you 7-9 mph over posted limit or will they give you a ticket for 5 mph over ( Just in general ) My wife will be telling me to go faster all the time
Old 05-20-2022 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DrAsto992GT3
As long as we are talking about speeding - In Europe ( Switzerland/Getmany/Austria/Italy) do they give you 7-9 mph over posted limit or will they give you a ticket for 5 mph over ( Just in general ) My wife will be telling me to go faster all the time
I lived in Switzerland for several years and (pre Covid) used to travel to Europe on business at least once a year. From my experience the biggest worry was always the photo/radar booths. Locals know where they are and they'll slow down for them and speed up again after. But sometimes police will set up mobile checkpoints. Most of the photo radar units had a very low tolerance. If the speed limit was say 50 kmh and you went just 53 kmh, *FLASH*. So the general rule is, consider the speed limit signs HARD limits--not like the states where speed limits often seem to be artificially low and everybody drives 10% over. Be particularly mindful of towns, villages, tunnels, any place where the speed limit suddenly goes down. Watch city or town centers where the speed limit drops to 30 kmh. It may seem painfully slow at times but those are the areas where you're likely to be hit. On country roads where in Germany you can go 100 kmh or in Switzerland 80 kmh, you're less likely to see photo radar and generally pretty safe, but sometimes in high accident areas or areas where you're approaching a town, police may have mobile check points.

In my experience, things have also changed. 25 years ago, when driving in rural France or Italy, speed limits were largely ignored. You could get away with SO much. In the last ten years, the average person drives much more cautiously and pays more attention to speed limits. And it's probably because checks are more frequent.
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Old 05-21-2022 | 08:34 AM
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^maybe good thing I ticked the sign recognition box.

Not sure on the value of the option given things like Waze and using CarPlay for nav apps but was curious.
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Does Waze work in Europe in if so what's the best way toot get a huge roaming internet bill -?
Old 05-21-2022 | 01:49 PM
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Does Waze work in Europe in if so what's the best way toot get a huge roaming internet bill -?
Yes, Waze works in Europe.

Best option for visiting is, on arrival, get a SIM card with a pre-paid plan. EU-wide roaming, including Switzerland. You should be able to find something like 25-30 GB for one month, for €30-ish.
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I'll be actually using the speed limit dash warning thing on my Cayenne for the first time ever when in Switzerland, it was that painful dealing with that ticket between California and Switzerland after the fact... also the reason why I opted for the free tomtom navigation that I'll return on drop-off (that and if you lose service for Apple Maps etc)

It did a good job picking up the speed limits on roads throughout different countries, even when you can't find the speed limit yourself
Old 05-22-2022 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SToronto
^maybe good thing I ticked the sign recognition box.

Not sure on the value of the option given things like Waze and using CarPlay for nav apps but was curious.
Point to note re CarPlay; it only shows speed limits when navigation is active. Weird Apple thing I know.
Old 05-24-2022 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by aggie57
Point to note re CarPlay; it only shows speed limits when navigation is active. Weird Apple thing I know.
Good point!

Since it's all new to me, I'll probably always have my destination active in nav (google maps, waze etc). Unless just wandering around within the city.


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