Originally Posted by dryadsdad

My wife likes the dash in the V more than in the P, but we've yet to drive either so I can't take a position on the seats or general fit and finish. Some here have said the fit and finish on the P is superior to the V which surprised me because for other models of V, I've thought the F&F were quite good. Again, something to look for.

I don't wish to autocross this SUV even if it can. For me, performance is probably well below the abilities of these cars from a speed view. I do have an unusual wish for a modern SUV and that it be capable of duty off road. I do NOT mean a real 4 x 4 course - I have my pickup for that - but rather being able to go where traction is ok but ground clearance is an issue for some passenger cars and where a conventional sports car like a 911 can't even consider going.

You see, we've evolved our dream car idea which is one we'd enjoy driving to some place in the mountains but then also enjoy touring around forest roads at our destinations. Sure, my truck can do the forest roads bit but it's sort of a drag on a freeway or other high speed drone. A 911 or Cayman or other similar are blasts to drive to the destination inn or B&B but then we have no way to get to the places we want to see and we're near.

Clearly the off road duty will be VERY mild because I'm not going to ruin the SUV by putting on aggressive tires like on my truck, but there are thousands of miles of roads in my region which only demand a high clearance and, in some cases, a low ratio transfer case (for going downhill) would be desirable.

It seems with the right options, either vehicle would do. My issue will be if I'd be content with the S / V8 or if my wife would stand the fuel usage of a turbo. I have to admit my weakness here that the lure of that turbo model has me dreaming of a have it all vehicle. I need to keep telling myself "It's for her, not you" but so far I am having a tough sale on myself.

Originally Posted by dryadsdad

Do you know if the subsequent gen Tregs are less capable off road? If so, what year demarks the gen 1 from 2 (etc)?

Originally Posted by fincher

I love my 2012 Touareg TDI Exec. Compared to the Cayenne Diesel, it's hands-down the better value any way you slice it. The Porsche has more features, add-ons, etc. Love the fact you can order a Cayenne exactly as desired. Of course, you pay a premium for it, but this where the Porsche beats the Touareg as you can get features not available here with VW.

The rest is all marketing and badge status.

There is no right or wrong answer especially if you have the $$.

Originally Posted by fincher

The current gen. Can be found on some 2008-10 models (facelift gen) .

Originally Posted by dryadsdad

So the gen 1 ended with the 08 as it did the Cayenne?

Originally Posted by mudman2

Seriously ? Really ?

You obviously made the right choice for you but please don't justify your purchase of a boring car by trying to compare it by badge and $$ because thats just not valid.

Originally Posted by dryadsdad

OK. Thanks. Unless I find a time capsule one, I think 07 may be a bit further back than we wish to go. I did look at the current '14 models on the VW site. I think the Treg has morphed into a luxo ride more than a dual sport SUV. I could be wrong, though.

Originally Posted by 69gaugeman

Go to clubtouareg,com. They have a lot of posts about this subject there.

Originally Posted by dryadsdad

I've seen a few V10 diesels for sale. I had no idea the VW came with that engine.

Anyway, the story has ended with the purchase of a CPO Cayenne Turbo. We 'shook hands'in email today. I'll wire the money tomorrow and hope it'll be here next week.