The Toureg Problem
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My wife likes the dash in the V more than in the P, but we've yet to drive either so I can't take a position on the seats or general fit and finish. Some here have said the fit and finish on the P is superior to the V which surprised me because for other models of V, I've thought the F&F were quite good. Again, something to look for.
I don't wish to autocross this SUV even if it can. For me, performance is probably well below the abilities of these cars from a speed view. I do have an unusual wish for a modern SUV and that it be capable of duty off road. I do NOT mean a real 4 x 4 course - I have my pickup for that - but rather being able to go where traction is ok but ground clearance is an issue for some passenger cars and where a conventional sports car like a 911 can't even consider going.
You see, we've evolved our dream car idea which is one we'd enjoy driving to some place in the mountains but then also enjoy touring around forest roads at our destinations. Sure, my truck can do the forest roads bit but it's sort of a drag on a freeway or other high speed drone. A 911 or Cayman or other similar are blasts to drive to the destination inn or B&B but then we have no way to get to the places we want to see and we're near.
Clearly the off road duty will be VERY mild because I'm not going to ruin the SUV by putting on aggressive tires like on my truck, but there are thousands of miles of roads in my region which only demand a high clearance and, in some cases, a low ratio transfer case (for going downhill) would be desirable.
It seems with the right options, either vehicle would do. My issue will be if I'd be content with the S / V8 or if my wife would stand the fuel usage of a turbo. I have to admit my weakness here that the lure of that turbo model has me dreaming of a have it all vehicle. I need to keep telling myself "It's for her, not you" but so far I am having a tough sale on myself.
I don't wish to autocross this SUV even if it can. For me, performance is probably well below the abilities of these cars from a speed view. I do have an unusual wish for a modern SUV and that it be capable of duty off road. I do NOT mean a real 4 x 4 course - I have my pickup for that - but rather being able to go where traction is ok but ground clearance is an issue for some passenger cars and where a conventional sports car like a 911 can't even consider going.
You see, we've evolved our dream car idea which is one we'd enjoy driving to some place in the mountains but then also enjoy touring around forest roads at our destinations. Sure, my truck can do the forest roads bit but it's sort of a drag on a freeway or other high speed drone. A 911 or Cayman or other similar are blasts to drive to the destination inn or B&B but then we have no way to get to the places we want to see and we're near.
Clearly the off road duty will be VERY mild because I'm not going to ruin the SUV by putting on aggressive tires like on my truck, but there are thousands of miles of roads in my region which only demand a high clearance and, in some cases, a low ratio transfer case (for going downhill) would be desirable.
It seems with the right options, either vehicle would do. My issue will be if I'd be content with the S / V8 or if my wife would stand the fuel usage of a turbo. I have to admit my weakness here that the lure of that turbo model has me dreaming of a have it all vehicle. I need to keep telling myself "It's for her, not you" but so far I am having a tough sale on myself.
In offroad mode the treg raises some 75mm (3") from normal driving position. Added with low 4 it is a very good off road vehicle
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I love my 2012 Touareg TDI Exec. Compared to the Cayenne Diesel, it's hands-down the better value any way you slice it. The Porsche has more features, add-ons, etc. Love the fact you can order a Cayenne exactly as desired. Of course, you pay a premium for it, but this where the Porsche beats the Touareg as you can get features not available here with VW.
The rest is all marketing and badge status.
There is no right or wrong answer especially if you have the $$.
The rest is all marketing and badge status.
There is no right or wrong answer especially if you have the $$.
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Seriously ? Really ?
You obviously made the right choice for you but please don't justify your purchase of a boring car by trying to compare it by badge and $$ because thats just not valid.
You obviously made the right choice for you but please don't justify your purchase of a boring car by trying to compare it by badge and $$ because thats just not valid.
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I love my 2012 Touareg TDI Exec. Compared to the Cayenne Diesel, it's hands-down the better value any way you slice it. The Porsche has more features, add-ons, etc. Love the fact you can order a Cayenne exactly as desired. Of course, you pay a premium for it, but this where the Porsche beats the Touareg as you can get features not available here with VW.
The rest is all marketing and badge status.
There is no right or wrong answer especially if you have the $$.
The rest is all marketing and badge status.
There is no right or wrong answer especially if you have the $$.
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OK. Thanks. Unless I find a time capsule one, I think 07 may be a bit further back than we wish to go. I did look at the current '14 models on the VW site. I think the Treg has morphed into a luxo ride more than a dual sport SUV. I could be wrong, though.
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Go to clubtouareg,com. They have a lot of posts about this subject there.
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Friend of mine just bought the v6 Toureg diesel. 2010. It's a nice car with all of the upgrades including 2 tone leather seats. It drives very well and is good on fuel. So for less that $30000 with only 33000 miles he has a very nice truck. I have the v8 S Cayanne so I am biased.
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I've seen a few V10 diesels for sale. I had no idea the VW came with that engine.
Anyway, the story has ended with the purchase of a CPO Cayenne Turbo. We 'shook hands'in email today. I'll wire the money tomorrow and hope it'll be here next week.
Anyway, the story has ended with the purchase of a CPO Cayenne Turbo. We 'shook hands'in email today. I'll wire the money tomorrow and hope it'll be here next week.