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Old 12-01-2011, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ltc
Is this where I am supposed to cry?
I am merely a member contributing to a thread here in the P!g Pen.
Sir Mudman2 is your esteemed P!g Pen forum moderator ... and from what I hear a Panamera proponent
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Nice song Pops.

Just wrong timing, cause now he will cry..


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Old 12-01-2011, 04:15 PM
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"Lulz, bro!"

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No idea where to start with this thread....?? All over the place...

Riley - as unpopular as this may be... I really like your ideas. As in, really like them. Very much feels like arbitrage. Brilliant theories, in my opinion, about human behavior. I may even try to do this... but how on earth do you get a dealer to start giving you discounts? (OR, how do it get in the $4MM friends/family group??)
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Old 12-01-2011, 08:24 PM
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Sean,if you think the start of the thread is confusing...just wait a few pages,then it will make even more sense
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Old 12-02-2011, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by seankrider
No idea where to start with this thread....?? All over the place...

Riley - as unpopular as this may be... I really like your ideas. As in, really like them. Very much feels like arbitrage. Brilliant theories, in my opinion, about human behavior. I may even try to do this... but how on earth do you get a dealer to start giving you discounts? (OR, how do it get in the $4MM friends/family group??)
If you ignore the friends/family bulk discount comment, he makes a couple of very valid points.

First, his point about buying low option base models is very valid. When I wanted to trade in my Aston, all they wanted to know was the mileage and color. That's it. I asked the guy about the fact that it had a bunch of options, and he said "they add virtually zero to the resale value".

The other point he makes is buying a new model in high demand. Given that it is a new model, there is no real "used" market, thus a one year old model commands an artificially high price until plenty of used cars become available.

But, most of us, including me, do not have the self control when it comes to power and options. That's why Porsche realizes obscene profit margins.
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Old 12-04-2011, 01:59 AM
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Just read these links . . .

http://www.wemotor.com/blog/2011/06/...mand-in-china/

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/c...zy-demand.html
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Originally Posted by MM3.9GT3
If you ignore the friends/family bulk discount comment, he makes a couple of very valid points.

First, his point about buying low option base models is very valid. When I wanted to trade in my Aston, all they wanted to know was the mileage and color. That's it. I asked the guy about the fact that it had a bunch of options, and he said "they add virtually zero to the resale value".

The other point he makes is buying a new model in high demand. Given that it is a new model, there is no real "used" market, thus a one year old model commands an artificially high price until plenty of used cars become available.

But, most of us, including me, do not have the self control when it comes to power and options. That's why Porsche realizes obscene profit margins.
Good points, and I don't question the premise/suggestions that have been made about how to make money flipping cars. I'll just add that I buy cars to please myself and to enjoy them long term; not to make money off of them. Cars like Porsches are an indulgence and getting nice options and more power are part of that. I could excercise self control and buy a less expensive vehicle with fewer goodies. I just don't want to. Life is short; not everything has to be about money. I suppose customers like me make Porsche happy, but OTOH my Porsches give me pleasure so it's a win for both of us.
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Originally Posted by ltc
Is this where I am supposed to cry?
I am merely a member contributing to a thread here in the P!g Pen.
Sir Mudman2 is your esteemed P!g Pen forum moderator ... and from what I hear a Panamera proponent
I doubt besides yourself, anyone else finds you funny. Keep your day job. Oops, I forgot, trolling is your day job.
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Originally Posted by 968TurboS
I doubt besides yourself, anyone else finds you funny. Keep your day job. Oops, I forgot, trolling is your day job.
I, for one, think your badly mistaken
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Yep, I think he's funny too...extremely funny
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Originally Posted by 968TurboS
I doubt besides yourself, anyone else finds you funny.
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Originally Posted by 968TurboS
I doubt besides yourself, anyone else finds you funny. Keep your day job. Oops, I forgot, trolling is your day job.
Welcome to the P!g Pen, Raj.


BTW, how is Fernando holding up these days?
Your conspicuous absense from the Racing/DE forum F1 discussions has been noted.

BTW, feel free to treat me like any other member here in the Pen ... I am not a Moderator .
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Originally Posted by ltc
Welcome to the P!g Pen, Raj.


BTW, how is Fernando holding up these days?
Your conspicuous absense from the Racing/DE forum F1 discussions has been noted.

BTW, feel free to treat me like any other member here in the Pen ... I am not a Moderator .
I wish. It doesn't allow me to block you, so there you go!
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Originally Posted by ltc
Welcome to the P!g Pen, Raj.


BTW, how is Fernando holding up these days?
Your conspicuous absense from the Racing/DE forum F1 discussions has been noted.

BTW, feel free to treat me like any other member here in the Pen ... I am not a Moderator .
Once again,not a mere...but a SUPER moderator
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