After Market Exhaust and Tuning
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Although it may be a prohibitive option, as far as price, the Ruf is the best in terms of drone. It is louder than stock and uses 100 cell cats, but like the factory piece upon which it is built, there's no drone. It sounds and behaves like something off the factory line. But it only makes sense as part of a conversion, a la carte price is something like $7K! Next best is the Europipe, a much more economical choice than the Ruf. After that I really like the old dual can Tubi, that was a great exhaust, never droned and sounded vicious and raspy.
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I have not contacted Europipe since I got these second hand and unsure about their williness to offer any info or advise from an indirect purchase of their product...
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If you email stef@europipe.be he will intentify what you have and whether it is suitable. Looks pretty old whatever it is...
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My EP1 never droned, I've heard Doug's Ruf, it sounds factory in a good way.
I did hear an EP2, and it most definately drones, but Stef tells you that straight up.
If I were to do an exhaust, and I'm not, it would be an old two can tubi.
I did hear an EP2, and it most definately drones, but Stef tells you that straight up.
If I were to do an exhaust, and I'm not, it would be an old two can tubi.
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I listened to the videos on Europipe's website, then listened to a local car that had EP1 and then back on the internet to listen to more samples. Many of the samples I heard sounded very representative and about 2 weeks after starting my research, I bought an EP1.
Not only does the car sound great, but it finally sounds like it should. There is no drone, and the sound at cold start and even when moving at slow speeds is wonderful.
Apart from the exceptional quality of the product, the special tools and direct help from Europipe (I installed it myself) were outstanding. So you are getting much more than just a quality exhaust. I am very particular, and the engineer in me appreciates attention to detail - and I highly recommend Europipe to anyone that is considering upgrading their exhaust.
Not only does the car sound great, but it finally sounds like it should. There is no drone, and the sound at cold start and even when moving at slow speeds is wonderful.
Apart from the exceptional quality of the product, the special tools and direct help from Europipe (I installed it myself) were outstanding. So you are getting much more than just a quality exhaust. I am very particular, and the engineer in me appreciates attention to detail - and I highly recommend Europipe to anyone that is considering upgrading their exhaust.
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This thread ended up being exhaust biased. What about complimenting the exhaust with a good intake system. With the aid of the tune expelling the exhaust, what intake is everyone fitting to help the motor breathe better?
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Unless someone has figured out how to install a refrigerator into the air box or fit an electric turbo inside then I'd hang on to your money. You've really got to be careful of the claims that get made with some of this AM crap and i'd be extremely careful of anyone who is spruiking that junk as being worthwhile.
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There is no intake out there worth buying.. they are all just expensive eye candy.. You cannot not beat the design of the stock intake. Save your money for other goodies..
A larger diameter exhaust, bigger VTG turbos and bigger(more effecient) IC's will help the motor breath better..
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There is no intake out there worth buying.. they are all just expensive eye candy.. You cannot not beat the design of the stock intake. Save your money for other goodies..
A larger diameter exhaust, bigger VTG turbos and bigger(more effecient) IC's will help the motor breath better..
A larger diameter exhaust, bigger VTG turbos and bigger(more effecient) IC's will help the motor breath better..
As you correctly pointed out, exhaust, ECU tune, turbos and I/C's (only where reduced IAT's can be substantiated) are the main mods that actually do something. The rest is more or less just sucker material for fools with more money than sense. Buyer beware....
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Gents , many thanks for your past informative posts regarding the Europipe stage 1 , Stef gets my thumbs up for great service and a new exhaust is now on its way ,local dealer will honour warrenty ( if he fits it ) happy birthday to me !
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