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Old 10-29-2021, 05:11 PM
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Personally, I like as few prior owners as possible for the following general reasons, but I'd always choose many good owners over 1 crappy one, but how do you judge the many prior owners? I find it hard enough to properly judge the one I'm buying from, and I'm definitely one of those 'buy the seller' type people.

1. Less prior owners means less worry about knowledge transfer loss. I've had vehicles in the past where trying to get to the bottom of an issue/modification was made impossible by that have being done a couple of owners back. Less of a concern with a stock vehicle, but a PITA on a modified one if you ned to find out what non-standard part was used.

2. Multiple owners doesn't worry me if each period of ownership is of reasonable length, or explainable if not. Am I going to worry of there was a short period of ownership where someone's circumstances changed? No. But when I see cars with a string of owners less than a year each, I always wonder if there's something not quite right about the car that's making many owners move it on so quickly.

3. Do I take better care of a car that I'm going to own for 10+ years than one I'm going to use for a year or so and then sell? Heck yeah, I don't invest extra in the preventative maintenance that I hope will likely save me money and hassle in the long term. Am I going to change out $100 of oil after each visit to the track on a car I'll only own for a year? Probably not, just go with the standard intervals. On one I plan on owning long term? Absolutely. Plenty of people think/know that they can treat a car poorly for a year or two and it likely won't come back to haunt them before they move it on.

There's always exceptions, I've known of a person that treats their very expensive cars fastidiously even though they only own them for a year before moving on to something else because they can.

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Old 10-29-2021, 07:56 PM
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...911-gt3-rs-17/

$253,000 with fee.
The typical bidder seems interested in .1 over .2
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Old 10-29-2021, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JS
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...911-gt3-rs-17/

$253,000 with fee.
The typical bidder seems interested in .1 over .2
IDK. Snaveed’s account has been inactive for over a week since he bought that 2k mile Black .1 RS. No purchases, bids, or comments since that auction.

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Old 10-30-2021, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 6DJ8
2010 GT3, black, 29,304 mi, no price listed

https://www.sewell.com/VehicleDetail...-TX/5189951040

WP0AC2A90AS783265

MSRP: $134,555

BASE 911 GT3

28 Black Leather Seats

342 Heated Front Seats

450 Ceramic Composite Brakes-PCCB

490 Sound Package Plus

509 Fire extinguisher

603 Dynamic cornering lights

619 Bluetooth Phone Interface

640 Sport Chrono Package Plus

686 XM Radio

810 Floor Mats in Interior Color

870 Universal audio interface

A1 Black

P01 Adaptive Sport Seats

P23 PCM 3.0 w/ Extended Navigation

XSA Sport Seat Backs Painted

XSC Porsche Crest in Headrest

XSY Seat Belts - Speed Yellow

XXZ Foot Rest Aluminum

Price is now listed: $162,990


Old 10-30-2021, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 6DJ8
Price is now listed: $162,990
Bargain
Old 10-30-2021, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenGT3
Bargain
Have I been living under a rock where a 997.2 with 30K miles is a bargain at $160k+??
Old 10-30-2021, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by joeycannoli
Have I been living under a rock where a 997.2 with 30K miles is a bargain at $160k+??
Yeah it’s not a bargain, black is also the least valuable color.

Going to assume it’s a GT3 owner or dealer saying it’s a bargain to keep the price hype going.
Old 10-30-2021, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442
Yeah it’s not a bargain, black is also the least valuable color.

Going to assume it’s a GT3 owner or dealer saying it’s a bargain to keep the price hype going.
In the last few years there have been less blacks on the market, but it’s true black requires more from its owner than a white or grey so it’s typically priced 3%-4% less all else being equal.

But that’s all pre-covid… there is little correlation these days it’s all over the map. Cars with accident history are going over $150…



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Old 10-31-2021, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442

Going to assume it’s a GT3 owner or dealer saying it’s a bargain to keep the price hype going.
I was being sarcastic. But yes, I am an owner. Couldn’t care less about the hype though. Price is irrelevant when you’re neither buying nor selling.
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Old 10-31-2021, 12:21 PM
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Doug has this 8800 mile Black .1 GT3 available. Steel brakes and $111k original MSRP. No price listed.

https://www.switchcars.com/cars-for-...orsche-911-gt3

VIN: WP0AC29927S792725
Old 10-31-2021, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Doug has this 8800 mile Black .1 GT3 available. Steel brakes and $111k original MSRP. No price listed.

https://www.switchcars.com/cars-for-...orsche-911-gt3

VIN: WP0AC29927S792725
got cars poppin all over the place

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Old 10-31-2021, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonderdan

Yup I noticed that too. I wonder if everyone is going to want to cash in now, therefore resulting in some price erosion.
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Old 10-31-2021, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonderdan
Pretty bare spec but it’s a 10k mile Carrara white so hard not to like. Wonder what they will ask for it.
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Old 10-31-2021, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonderdan
WP0AC2A9XBS783288. Guessing that someone with access to the auction site results such as Manheim would be able to see what this one traded for? Looks like it sold October of 2021 at auction. Then went to a Ford dealer and now is headed to Grand Prix.

Looks to have a roll bar in it and then possibly aftermarket exhaust tips meaning likely an aftermarket exhaust.
Old 10-31-2021, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GlenGT3
I agree with you. That car looks great.
I have to say though, I never understood the premium placed on single-owner cars. Aren't the odds greater that the car had one crappy owner than 3 or 5 crappy owners? Unless you personally know the "one owner", I don't see how ownership count translates to a car being better or worse.
I don't think number of owners matters either providing that service records are in place. Sure, I know of people that have bought a car, kept it for a year, never changed the oil and then sold it. The next guy may have only kept it for a year and didn't plan to do any maintenance either. Eventually someone can get left with the car that was not maintained and the car will need a lot of work. But with proper documentation in place I don't see this as being an issue. I'm the seventh owner on my GT3 and if I told you it was a one owner car, I think most would believe it. I've been lucky enough to contact each owner of my car, I have service records since 2014 on it and it has been maintained incredibly well.

It's funny how many one owner cars that I've seen are absolutely terrible. People lease them, know they're turning them in and figure nothing is their problem. Same for people that buy a car and hold it for 5+ years and they're the first owner, some may not take care of a car, wash it improperly, drive it year round in the salt (not saying that's the end of the world, but less than ideal for an optimal condition car).

In fairness, if you put two identical cars next to each other, one being a one owner, another being a ten owner with no other differences (which never happens), I'm of course going with the one owner car.

Nothing wrong with a high ownership number. I think most of us around here would flip in and out of cars yearly if we financially could or our families didn't think we were crazier than we already are.
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