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Old 02-17-2023, 04:01 PM
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You guys watching that 74k mile .1 auction right now? Like a minute left.
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Old 02-17-2023, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RAudi Driver
You guys watching that 74k mile .1 auction right now? Like a minute left.
Wow 121k for one with 74k miles. Kinda surprises me, for not much more you can get one with a lot lower miles right???...

I swear people pay extra on bat just to brag or something lol

EDIT: 126k WITH FEE!

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Old 02-17-2023, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
Wow 121k for one with 74k miles. Kinda surprises me, for not much more you can get one with a lot lower miles right???...

I swear people pay extra on bat just to brah or something lol

EDIT: 126k WITH FEE!
I'd give about 20k of that due to it being a white car(premium applies to white compared to silver/black)/no repainted panels and clean DME.
Old 02-17-2023, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cooler2442
I'd give about 20k of that due to it being a white car(premium applies to white compared to silver/black)/no repainted panels and clean DME.
Premium BaT seller, too. His cars always present and perform well.
Old 02-17-2023, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
Wow 121k for one with 74k miles. Kinda surprises me, for not much more you can get one with a lot lower miles right???...

I swear people pay extra on bat just to brag or something lol

EDIT: 126k WITH FEE!
Sold for more than last time. I thought everyone was saying these cars are going back down in value, lol.
Old 02-17-2023, 04:47 PM
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Nice price for that car (over MSRP) considering mileage and modest equipment level. But it is a desirable color and it was very well presented....
Old 02-17-2023, 05:01 PM
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Also pretty nice spec with red deviated stitching and etc. Wild to see it sell for more last time with 9 owners and all. Amazing. I randomly met the first BAT seller. Nice dude with cup cars so it was his street machine.
Old 02-17-2023, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jonwb
Nice price for that car (over MSRP) considering mileage and modest equipment level. But it is a desirable color and it was very well presented....
I thought it might take a hit for the roll cage reinforcement plate welds and history of prior mods, but that turned out not to be the case. The RS airbox mod seems bizarre to me if you're not changing out the entire decklid. Why have two openings to the airbox when only one barely lines up to the fresh air duct and the other just ends up sucking in hot air from the engine bay.
Old 02-17-2023, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by flat6fan18
I know this is wrong thread, but since it involves a 997 GT3, I’ll ask. Would you guys consider getting rid of your 7.1 GT3 for a 991.2 GT3 manual? Asking for a friend….👀
*raises hand*

Especially for track use.

I've had my 7.1 for only a few months, but I don't think I'm going to stick with it. It's not that I don't think the car is great...

I completely understand why people love these. They're great and do a lot of things well...unlike certain other exotics I've spent time with and wouldn't again (although ripping a 360 with a Tubi exhaust that sounds like a 90s F1 car and look down to see you're hitting all of 80 mph is hilarious). But I'm not an archetypal car guy or collector. I simply like driving. I don't really geek out over brands or models, options lists and spec sheets, or obsess over detailing, and I don't buy cars to park them. My cars are driven frequently and hard--the ones that aren't are sold. We all know that shopping for one is a bit of chore; this thread exists for a reason. I lost my 981 GT4 in a freak track accident and it took me a long time to find this car (over the short term I just picked up a used 718 GT4 for the rest of the season, then sold that at the end of the year when I grabbed the GT3). And here's the kicker: my current car isn't the right color or spec; I just got impatient. Cars are a tertiary hobby to me and I have a business to manage on top of that, so I place a high value on my time; I really hated the search process, and I hate buying cars in general, so I don't really have any desire to repeat it any time soon (next time, I'll use a broker).

It's a shame because the driving dynamics of the 7GT3 are fantastic, but they didn't make that many and they aren't going to make any more. Whereas 991.2s were produced in far greater volume, and they're cranking out 992s (that multi-link front is amazing, by the way), and so those are easy to come by (there's like 3+ a week popping up on BaT alone). 718 GT4s are also dime a dozen, for now. No, they're not as raw or analog or challenging or generally special as a 996 or 997, but all of those are still super fun on track; the blandness and tediousness you get on the road goes away when you can actually push them. The lateral Gs they can pull and the turn-in and balance is spectacular. The experiential delta at pace isn't that large; the newer cars are better in some ways. That said, I'm much more likely to go for another GT4 (or maybe the still under-appreciated 996.2 GT3) than a 991.2. I like the size and feel of it, the mid-engine driving dynamic, and a generally more analog vibe (as modern Porsches go).

Simply put: while I'm fanatical about maintenance, I still treat cars as disposable. If they explode for some reason and I want more, I want to be able to buy another one fairly easily, not go on a year-long easter egg hunt. Yes, call me impatient, but life is short and I've worked too hard to not enjoy as much of it while I can. So in turn, the current and likely indefinite state of the 7GT3 market diminishes my enjoyment of the car; all this talk of these appreciating to the moon reminds me of why this probably isn't the right car for me. I'm also finally starting to really understand Miata people...

JMO. The 997 is still a great car, one of the all-time greats, obviously. But there's definitely a lot of mystique and hype around them that or may not jive with the actual ownership experience and intended use.
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Old 02-17-2023, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
Car choices are always individual decisions. A Chrysler Pacifica is a better car than a Ferrari if you have 5 kids you need to get to soccer practice 3 times per week. I don't think @seis-speed was saying the 997 is the best car for everyone. I think he was simply saying that from a driving standpoint, the 997 generally offers a purer experience. Again, that doesn't mean it should be everyone's choice, but generally, I agree that the market trend seems to value them this way. Add the fact that production numbers were significantly lower, over a decade has passed since the last one was made, and now you have supply/demand economics supporting higher valuations.
I am a fanboy to be honest, so some of the higher valuations seem logical to me.

997GT is the sweet-spot of old and new - 'raw' with modern performance/reliability - not too fast, not too big, and not as worrisome about needing maintenance like an air-cooled car, but most importantly not lacking feel/character like the 991 and 992 - especially when it comes to steering feel. In isolation that is potentially not as noticeable, but back to back 997 is much more engaging and a clear winner.

That is my $.02

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Old 02-17-2023, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Carrara White .1 GT3 with 18k miles and PCCB’s. Some nice additions including sport buckets, pinned coolant lines with Sharkwerks coolant elbows, and Guard Cup LSD. Priced at $154k which seems like a good buy and probably won’t be around too long.

https://www.luxuryautohaus.net/vehic...2645c2530b3071

VIN: WP0AC29947S792631
Forced my buddy to trade his GT4 for this. Deal just done. Seems like an great example based on pics and talking with the seller. He had multiple offers near asking within a day. Would be lying if I said I wasn't a little jealous of the spec.
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Old 02-17-2023, 05:42 PM
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That driving video sold the car. LOL.
Old 02-17-2023, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by akhbhaat
*raises hand*
Your post makes sense, but many of us are diehard 911 fans and the debate is 911 vs other types of 911.....

I certainly see where someone who does not like searching and buying cars would have a hard-time with the entire GT3 market, especially the 997 market.

Good luck!

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Old 02-17-2023, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jreifler
Forced my buddy to trade his GT4 for this. Deal just done. Seems like an great example based on pics and talking with the seller. He had multiple offers near asking within a day. Would be lying if I said I wasn't a little jealous of the spec.
After I drove yours it was just a matter of time. This wouldn’t be happening without you, thanks buddy.
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Old 02-17-2023, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vudores
After I drove yours it was just a matter of time. This wouldn’t be happening without you, thanks buddy.

I was working a deal on this car. You got a great car. I asked the seller a lot of questions. I called an hour ago to tell him I’m ready to buy, but he informed me that it sold.

edit: congratulations!

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