Originally Posted by 85Gold

That is much needed. Now get that GT350 and run the **** out of it so I can make a decision. Waiting till 2016 is going to try my patience.

Peter

Originally Posted by cretinx

I don't have a dog in this fight but I don't see the Cayman GT4 customer being the same as the GT3 customer.

I see the GT4 customer wanting to race in a spec series.

Originally Posted by supercup

I agree the GT4 customer may want to race in a spec series, but so do the GT3 customers and Porsche has provided us the Cup car and we have a number of spec series. Be nice if Porsche prepares a GT4 Cup and creates another catagory for spec series racing!

I think there is a crossover of customers, which is why all the GT4 threads are in the GT3 forum section, not the Cayman sections. The GT3 customer will buy the car if they like what they see. Then there is a new GT customer given the lower price point.

Originally Posted by GTgears

I don't know which RL you belong to, but I see two Cayman specific forums and they both have GT4 threads in them, as does the racing forum, some of the turbo forums, and several other. -

The Cayman Cup, which is coming, will be a feeder series for Carrera Cup, among other things. A $125-150k turnkey racecar will lower operating costs than a Cup. The hook gets set, the driver gets some skills, and 2-3 years later they buy a Cup. Porsche has a plan.

Originally Posted by tasman

My deposit is in. Am number 2 at a large dealer. Now just need for them to start building them. Afraid it won't be here till fall of this year and will thus be garage ornament until 2016. Hard to wait!

Originally Posted by tasman

My deposit is in. Am number 2 at a large dealer. Now just need for them to start building them. Afraid it won't be here till fall of this year and will thus be garage ornament until 2016. Hard to wait!

Originally Posted by GTgears

If you want to limit the term "Mezger engine" to water cooled then there is truth to want you say. It predates the GT1 and started with the 962, the first water cooled Porsche flat 6. But even then the basic architecture came out of the original street car engines, which is how it should be in GT racing. GT racing has always required homologation production and street cars. They made both GT1 and 917 street cars to meet those rules.

I also don't buy your claim that the 9A1 is not up to FIA/ACO standards. The reason they ran a mezger at LeMans last year is because the engine rules are changing. Porsche couldn't build a new engine to a spec that wasn't yet announced. They stuck with what was homologated. They haven't homologated the 9A1. They couldn't legally race it even if they wanted to. A new engine is coming. It will be to the new FIA/ACO spec.

Originally Posted by Mvez

+1. They are the Apple of race car/part manufacturers. This car makes total sense, lots of GT4 racecars out there, Aston, BMW, Lotus, etc. etc....they simply made their own "gateway" car to the 911 Cup car, instead of letting them buy another mark.

Plus, by now, everybody knows that even for privateers racing a Cup car is big bucks, or that the 911 GT America still requires LOTS of upgrades and investment to run with the big boys. Don't even think about what it costs to run a GT3-R.

GT4 race car will be able to run in PWC - GTS class, GT4 Europe, Conti-GS. They can also run single make series, just like Aston and others do with their GT4 Cayman.

I'm not married to the mezger, and the repair and operating costs are a problem, and Porsche knows this. Just look at why so many GT3 based teams switched to cars like the Audi R8 LMS because of huge engine service intervals.....huge cost savings over the coarse of a season.


I think this whole GT4 campaign is brilliant, and my guess is there will be a host of cool, factory motorsports parts that can be bought and slapped on your GT4 as well. The GT4 cars share so, so much more with the road cars. Just look at how all the guys with E92 M3's have their cars running on GT4 equipment. That's cool, and it's real motorsport stuff, not some janky aftermarket parts.

Originally Posted by brake dust

Yes and No. The 9a1 meets current FIA technical regulations and production numbers to be homologated. Porsche chose not to - nothing more than that.

Hartmut Kristen had indicated in an EXCELLENCE article that Porsche was not willing to invest millions into a new motorsport engine until the new 2015/2016 technical regulations are in place. All indications is that Porsche Motorsort will wait for the new technical regulations to be in place before developing a new engine and continue to race with Mezger.

Originally Posted by 997s07

So why not take the 3.4L engine and make it really high revving along with a true dry sump? Get over the 100hp/L mark more significantly. It'll be a fun car, but no GT3. The 997 cars look better also. This car would never replace my GT3.

Originally Posted by Speeds5

I'd be looking at these when they're 30% off in a few years in the used market. These won't be limited in production so you know they'll be losing value as soon as you drive them off the lot. In 3-4 years, you pick up a nicely set up one at a discount and you're set for a track car.

Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports

Dan Rogers did 24 hours of testing himself!

Originally Posted by Steve Theodore

For this reason alone it's really hard for me to imagine that many GT3 (and certainly GT3 RS) owners are going to jump ship for a Cayman GT4. There is something special about a rare car, and I'm afraid that this is diluting the GT brand to build so many cars. Granted even Ferrari and Lamborghini act this way now as the worldwide demand for rare and fast cars is WAY up from decades ago.

I'll be happily slumming along with my old GT3 RS, although I do like the new GT4!