Roll call Sebring Nov 3-4 with Chin
#257
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I have no idea what Orbit build me before, but it felt like more to me?
It seems to have more under braking, but who knows there are too many variables and I dont understand what they try to explain to me with ramps and plates and stuff.
It seems to have more under braking, but who knows there are too many variables and I dont understand what they try to explain to me with ramps and plates and stuff.
#258
Race Director
Also exit T10 and full throttle all the way around 11-12 also. On off throttle there can get the rear end in trouble too.
Also,I'd like to add and what I was taught for Bishops is to breath off a little throttle...about half throttle at the first rumble strips on the right into Bishops and then right at or slightly after the second rumbles on the left start squeezing on full throttle. This keeps the rear stuck and the car balanced through Bishops.
Chris Hall took my lowly Carrera GTS through Bishops full throttle...on R888 tires no drama. Exit speed was 120ish. I haven't worked up to that yet but 1/2 throttle to squeezing on full throttle technique by mid Bishops has me at 117 exit at Bishops.
#259
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This accomplishes a few things I really like, less static locking (meaning your plates aren't under lots of locking when you don't need them to be), and this creates less wear, and less heat in the gearbox. Good things.
This is why the PMNA clutch packs seem to wear out faster, the higher pre-load increases wear and heat. Some like the feel better initially (but it wears out quicker), however the Guard unit should free up some slightly also. I think mine has, and I've probably gotten better at rolling into the gas less aggressively when needed.
Also, you actually also have the 50/80 ramps, all you do is simply invert the ramps on the stack. I personally don't ever seeing myself switch to the 50/80 setup, it's already as aggressive as I want it with 40/60.
Thanks for schooling me Matt
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Can I go faster? Yes, at the risk of drifting through BB, no thanks.
The boxster coupe can do flatout from t13, but the car is just underpowered.
#261
Nordschleife Master
My little trick, is not fast but it is safer. I brake quite hard before entering BB, then roll the gas from 2/3 at BB entry, to full on exit. My entry speeds are lower, my exit speeds higher, the section is slower compared to the aero beetles, but my rear end is as planted as it can be, and BB is a nice comfortable ride rather than a scary ride.
Can I go faster? Yes, at the risk of drifting through BB, no thanks.
The boxster coupe can do flatout from t13, but the car is just underpowered.
Can I go faster? Yes, at the risk of drifting through BB, no thanks.
The boxster coupe can do flatout from t13, but the car is just underpowered.
it sucks you to the ground like a hoover vac
#262
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My little trick, is not fast but it is safer. I brake quite hard before entering BB, then roll the gas from 2/3 at BB entry, to full on exit. My entry speeds are lower, my exit speeds higher, the section is slower compared to the aero beetles, but my rear end is as planted as it can be, and BB is a nice comfortable ride rather than a scary ride.
Can I go faster? Yes, at the risk of drifting through BB, no thanks.
The boxster coupe can do flatout from t13, but the car is just underpowered.
Can I go faster? Yes, at the risk of drifting through BB, no thanks.
The boxster coupe can do flatout from t13, but the car is just underpowered.
Peter
#263
Burning Brakes
I don't get Chex Mix in Canada. I should have when I had the chance! Thanks for the pretzels though.
OK - I get why Stu couldn't even celebrate with a cookie when he graduated with Rob & Sandro around.
Thanks KBS911! I felt pretty decent and thanks for telling me the 2:30 mark was the mark to break. I just wanted to grad into DE Cup's Coffee Cup level. I think I've got my 2:32 on YouTube as well. I've been to Sebring x2 now and with some great coaches in DE Cup, I've got a good idea of the many things to work on.
2:27 TBL,... I am assuming that TBL is piecing together my best segments from all laps? Sorry, this newbie is not familiar with the term. Thanks Peter! I feel much more confident at Sebring with a good list of items to work on for next time. Goal will be 2:24.999 (or as Rad calls a 2:25).
Happy to split Nigel for Winterfest. I will commit to going to Winterfest NOW. Your videos are fantastic. So, much to learn by studying them. Can't wait to be there for your 2:17 - 2:18's during Winterfest!
Great stuff Steve! Crazy fast.
I was going to follow Senna, but I saw you and Miga and decided to wait. I'm glad I did as that was my favorite session. I need a rabbit to follow. As for the video, I'm in the process of making it. Will upload and post here for you. I'm glad I didn't hit him!
Both of you guys confirmed how SLOW I am in T17, along with TRAKCAR's, Eddie's, and Steve's videos too, and Nigel's driving my car. That's my #1 item for Winterfest.
OK - I get why Stu couldn't even celebrate with a cookie when he graduated with Rob & Sandro around.
Congrats on making a sub 2.30 run. Very smooth and in control. From everything I hear that's the mark to beat to be considered pretty quick at Sebring. I am going to run my new to me RS there this weekend, Nov. 11 for the first time. Only one other track day there with my GTS, and the RS is a very, very different car. My goal is to join the sub 2.30 club one day and become a proud member of the Coffee Cup. Thanks for posting. I'll be watching your video a bunch before this weekend.
Nice video Stephen!
I have looked at the data too bad I forgot the video or I would have merged it. See below
Yout TBL is 1:27!! nothing to sneeze at and you are concistently chipping away at the time. Very well done!
Rad approved ;-)
Lets set up Nigel with you again at Winterfest, I had a great time with him.
I'll look for some video when he is talking me throught the track. With talking I mean correcting me ;-)
Senna, post you laps and get a VBox please.
This was my fast lap, but the combination of lines from Nigel and some kinda what I am conmfortable with, just finally looking into how VBox works, not too difficult but I have a lot of questions still.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyxCH0tQ0XY
I have looked at the data too bad I forgot the video or I would have merged it. See below
Yout TBL is 1:27!! nothing to sneeze at and you are concistently chipping away at the time. Very well done!
Rad approved ;-)
Lets set up Nigel with you again at Winterfest, I had a great time with him.
I'll look for some video when he is talking me throught the track. With talking I mean correcting me ;-)
Senna, post you laps and get a VBox please.
This was my fast lap, but the combination of lines from Nigel and some kinda what I am conmfortable with, just finally looking into how VBox works, not too difficult but I have a lot of questions still.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyxCH0tQ0XY
Happy to split Nigel for Winterfest. I will commit to going to Winterfest NOW. Your videos are fantastic. So, much to learn by studying them. Can't wait to be there for your 2:17 - 2:18's during Winterfest!
Both of you guys confirmed how SLOW I am in T17, along with TRAKCAR's, Eddie's, and Steve's videos too, and Nigel's driving my car. That's my #1 item for Winterfest.
#264
Looking forward to Chin event in December. I will be there again, need a coach this time. Or maybe get Eric to ride with me a few laps.
Here is the latest time, 2.24 on old tires. I am having a lot of fun in the Blue group...
It won't be long before Rob and his OMG 996Cup nice cup car starts cleaning the field.
I am still dring water like a Camel today...
Here is the latest time, 2.24 on old tires. I am having a lot of fun in the Blue group...
It won't be long before Rob and his OMG 996Cup nice cup car starts cleaning the field.
I am still dring water like a Camel today...
Last edited by senna; 11-07-2012 at 06:59 PM.
#265
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Sandro, a 2:24 is imprerssive, you made massive progress.
Now it gets more and more difficult to chip this tenths away ;-)
Here is Stephens FALTOUT lap :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaJ0h...ature=youtu.be
And all the sub 2:31 laps in the same session. Nicely done Stephen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjG_XRelBkY
Yes, TBL is theoretical Best Lap. 2:2701, see graph with your data a few posts back.
I will look to see where you leave the most time and send you an e-mail before Winterfest.
Now it gets more and more difficult to chip this tenths away ;-)
Here is Stephens FALTOUT lap :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaJ0h...ature=youtu.be
And all the sub 2:31 laps in the same session. Nicely done Stephen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjG_XRelBkY
2:27 TBL,... I am assuming that TBL is piecing together my best segments from all laps? Sorry, this newbie is not familiar with the term. Thanks Peter! I feel much more confident at Sebring with a good list of items to work on for next time. Goal will be 2:24.999 (or as Rad calls a 2:25).
Happy to split Nigel for Winterfest. I will commit to going to Winterfest NOW. Your videos are fantastic. So, much to learn by studying them. Can't wait to be there for your 2:17 - 2:18's during Winterfest!
Happy to split Nigel for Winterfest. I will commit to going to Winterfest NOW. Your videos are fantastic. So, much to learn by studying them. Can't wait to be there for your 2:17 - 2:18's during Winterfest!
I will look to see where you leave the most time and send you an e-mail before Winterfest.
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Not to me they aren't, and I've gotten to them every time. As will most people here who study data intently. Hardly anyone here (other than the pro guys) who can drive inside that last second of possible speed.
#268
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Senna, what did I tell you?! haha.
Thanks Peter for making these videos for me. Really appreciate them.
Andrew: here's the session with you leading, Miga following, and me following both of you. Your highlight comes at the end of the video. Great fun and nice how it all worked out.
Thanks Peter for making these videos for me. Really appreciate them.
Andrew: here's the session with you leading, Miga following, and me following both of you. Your highlight comes at the end of the video. Great fun and nice how it all worked out.
#270
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Senna, what did I tell you?! haha.
Thanks Peter for making these videos for me. Really appreciate them.
Andrew: here's the session with you leading, Miga following, and me following both of you. Your highlight comes at the end of the video. Great fun and nice how it all worked out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aT-UwmqE4g
Thanks Peter for making these videos for me. Really appreciate them.
Andrew: here's the session with you leading, Miga following, and me following both of you. Your highlight comes at the end of the video. Great fun and nice how it all worked out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aT-UwmqE4g
I don't remember seeing that. What did he do? I remember seeing him in the grass with a dust up but I didn't catch that in your video here.