Roll call Sebring Nov 3-4 with Chin
11-05-2012, 03:44 PM
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Was that when Chris Hall was teaching for them? He's a Sebring master, too.
The data does show that you can raise your vMin between BB and T15 if you open the radius through T15 after "getting the turning done" to the right first. Some use brakes into to do that...
IMO, the above should not be read as an excuse to enter center track or track right into T15.
Nigel has a very specific idea on compound curve construction. You can read part of it here: http://www.videovbox.co.uk/index.php...article&id=152
I think it's equally incumbent for the driver to have A) a very clear vision of what they're going to do, before they get there, AND B) do what it takes (line, timing, number and amplitude of control inputs) to have supreme confidence.
The latter governs not only the velocity at brake release, but also equally or more importantly, the timing and amplitude of throttle commitment speeding back up...
If you're waiting for the car to f$%k you, it will...
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11-05-2012, 04:02 PM
#168
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Was that when Chris Hall was teaching for them? He's a Sebring master, too.
The data does show that you can raise your vMin between BB and T15 if you open the radius through T15 after "getting the turning done" to the right first. Some use brakes into to do that...
IMO, the above should not be read as an excuse to enter center track or track right into T15.
Nigel has a very specific idea on compound curve construction. You can read part of it here: http://www.videovbox.co.uk/index.php...article&id=152
I think it's equally incumbent for the driver to have A) a very clear vision of what they're going to do, before they get there, AND B) do what it takes (line, timing, number and amplitude of control inputs) to have supreme confidence.
The latter governs not only the velocity at brake release, but also equally or more importantly, the timing and amplitude of throttle commitment speeding back up...
If you're waiting for the car to f$%k you, it will...
His approach while different gives a different way to attack a corner
If u f up at the limit ur done thou
11-05-2012, 04:14 PM
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Sounds like a very advanced technique to be used at your own risk. I'm not at Platinum DE Cup level so I'll stick with simple slower arced line 
Does anyone have video posted yet of what Nigel was teaching? I'd like to see it applied. Sounds dicey but fast if you get it right.
Does anyone have video posted yet of what Nigel was teaching? I'd like to see it applied. Sounds dicey but fast if you get it right.
11-05-2012, 04:35 PM
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well, fastest flatout lap of the day....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b000bvYL8co
Still some WTF moments to upload, like Clarke's spin on turn 1, Erik puking coolant everywhere ... and a few more to say the least.
How I missed Sebring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b000bvYL8co
Still some WTF moments to upload, like Clarke's spin on turn 1, Erik puking coolant everywhere ... and a few more to say the least.
How I missed Sebring
11-05-2012, 04:43 PM
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Important for everyone to keep their minds open, but also to realize that there are no "silver bullets."
11-05-2012, 04:51 PM
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11-05-2012, 05:07 PM
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Sounds like a very advanced technique to be used at your own risk. I'm not at Platinum DE Cup level so I'll stick with simple slower arced line
Does anyone have video posted yet of what Nigel was teaching? I'd like to see it applied. Sounds dicey but fast if you get it right.
Does anyone have video posted yet of what Nigel was teaching? I'd like to see it applied. Sounds dicey but fast if you get it right.
http://youtu.be/nPprudydEhg
It was his first hot lap in my car. He left it in 3rd coming out of 7. Must have been used to those POS RS's.
11-05-2012, 05:38 PM
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Smooth. Uses all the width of the road, very linear in his level of deceleration throughout the longer braking zones.
Car placement at the entry and through the turn-in phase at T15 is very, very good.
Quite conservative with the throttle through BB. You can lose speed (5-6 mph) from just the very turning of the wheel...
Car placement at the entry and through the turn-in phase at T15 is very, very good.
Quite conservative with the throttle through BB. You can lose speed (5-6 mph) from just the very turning of the wheel...
11-05-2012, 06:01 PM
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Smooth. Uses all the width of the road, very linear in his level of deceleration throughout the longer braking zones.
Car placement at the entry and through the turn-in phase at T15 is very, very good.
Quite conservative with the throttle through BB. You can lose speed (5-6 mph) from just the very turning of the wheel...
Car placement at the entry and through the turn-in phase at T15 is very, very good.
Quite conservative with the throttle through BB. You can lose speed (5-6 mph) from just the very turning of the wheel...
I was like WTF, I can't lose Steve
11-05-2012, 06:02 PM
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http://youtu.be/nPprudydEhg
It was his first hot lap in my car. He left it in 3rd coming out of 7. Must have been used to those POS RS's.
It was his first hot lap in my car. He left it in 3rd coming out of 7. Must have been used to those POS RS's.
11-05-2012, 06:12 PM
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Here it goes a few more ....
Erik puking coolant, you can see that he's already spreading the pain before turn 16... After that Clarke seeing the world in 360 degrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcz_CS4PwFg
Erik puking coolant, you can see that he's already spreading the pain before turn 16... After that Clarke seeing the world in 360 degrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcz_CS4PwFg
11-05-2012, 06:23 PM
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11-05-2012, 06:40 PM
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Here it goes a few more ....
Erik puking coolant, you can see that he's already spreading the pain before turn 16... After that Clarke seeing the world in 360 degrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcz_CS4PwFg
Erik puking coolant, you can see that he's already spreading the pain before turn 16... After that Clarke seeing the world in 360 degrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcz_CS4PwFg
11-05-2012, 06:43 PM
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Nah...retired myself from DE cup this weekend. The risk is getting too high with no reward, and I dont want to lose a friend over an incident........or see someone get hurt. Most of the DE cup drivers only have a half cage at best. Track curtiousy for DE enviroment is getting a little out of control. When I see ALMS drivers drifting around the track Ill start thinking it is a controlled proper technique...until then I'll join Peter and drive in my bubble
Here was by best lap using the Vbox, I really enjoyed the system
Here was by best lap using the Vbox, I really enjoyed the system