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Old 06-19-2012, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Izzone
32 front
34 rear

Fastest but is tough on the tire

I go out at 24/26ish
+1....also helps to not try and set any DECup records on the outlap. I like those pressures on really hot days, but in the mornings and cooler days I try to preserve the tires and live with ~2lbs higher on both ends.
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Originally Posted by Steve W
Hopefully those were the old RA1s. My friends who race in Spec911, are reporting that the current batch is different from the old. Whereas they used to shave them to 3 or 4/32nds and get 4 race weekends out of them, fastest right before they cord, with the new ones they can barely get one weekend out of them then they have absolutely no grip. They've noted the compound is different, softer and gummier like the R888. Then as you come to the wear bars, it's a different compound that has no grip, just as I found looking at the R888s in the sunlight as it was transitioning to the wear bars. We speculate that the new RA1s are just R888s in a RA1 mold, that the old RA1s were so successful and long lasting that Toyo regretted making them. What will happen is everyone will gripe how RA1s suck unless shaved, and when they find it doesn't last long, go back to running R888s, the other approved spec tire.
Very interesting! These are the prime 2007 vintage

Originally Posted by Mvez
+1....also helps to not try and set any DECup records on the outlap. I like those pressures on really hot days, but in the mornings and cooler days I try to preserve the tires and live with ~2lbs higher on both ends.

It does not get real cold here often but even going out on 24 all around I bleed all day to keep them under 34.
The next day if I'm lazy I go out barely over 20, come in a bit low after the first session wearing tires too much but fast. Second session is usually close enough.
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Good deal! It would suck if those were new. Would be like someone buying up 128 R888s and shaving all the rubber off!
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Originally Posted by Steve W
Hopefully those were the old RA1s. My friends who race in Spec911, are reporting that the current batch is different from the old. Whereas they used to shave them to 3 or 4/32nds and get 4 race weekends out of them, fastest right before they cord, with the new ones they can barely get one weekend out of them then they have absolutely no grip. They've noted the compound is different, softer and gummier like the R888. Then as you come to the wear bars, it's a different compound that has no grip, just as I found looking at the R888s in the sunlight as it was transitioning to the wear bars. We speculate that the new RA1s are just R888s in a RA1 mold, that the old RA1s were so successful and long lasting that Toyo regretted making them. What will happen is everyone will gripe how RA1s suck unless shaved, and when they find it doesn't last long, go back to running R888s, the other approved spec tire.
R888 is such garbage i much rather stop track driving than suffering with it.
u listening toyo?
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I agree, but worse, it seems they screwed up again with the new fake RA1 look alike.
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^ that's why hoosiers will eat up the track world.
and the wealthy will be buying michelins.
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And that's why I bought 128 RA1's today.
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^ in addition to randy's 100?
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128 total together with Clarke, Randy, Erik, Juan, Mike and Eddie.
I just did the ordering, financing and handle storage and distribution..

The 80 or 100 Randy ordered last year are all gone.
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hum.... you are on to something.
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Originally Posted by Steve W
Hopefully those were the old RA1s. My friends who race in Spec911, are reporting that the current batch is different from the old. Whereas they used to shave them to 3 or 4/32nds and get 4 race weekends out of them, fastest right before they cord, with the new ones they can barely get one weekend out of them then they have absolutely no grip. They've noted the compound is different, softer and gummier like the R888. Then as you come to the wear bars, it's a different compound that has no grip, just as I found looking at the R888s in the sunlight as it was transitioning to the wear bars. We speculate that the new RA1s are just R888s in a RA1 mold, that the old RA1s were so successful and long lasting that Toyo regretted making them. What will happen is everyone will gripe how RA1s suck unless shaved, and when they find it doesn't last long, go back to running R888s, the other approved spec tire.
Yes, agreed, the new batch RA1's are not very good at all.

Also, FYI, the old ones were NOT fastest just before cording. That is an internet myth. Rather, that are 100% consistent right up until cording...which differentiates them from other R compounds that fall off aggressively...and thus folks thought they were getting faster simply because they were not getting slower.
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Thanks for confirming Dave!
Now I am double happy with our purchase :-)
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Sucks to hear the new RA-1's are just the old R888's that they couldn't sell
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Sounds like old RA1's are like a fine wine.

BTW, that new Toyo slick comes in 4 sizes. And naturally no fitment for our cars.
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You should be good with Nitto's.


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