Monoballs-- which are most effective?
05-20-2012, 08:43 AM
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No it doesn't. Turning the upper mount is only for those who can't fit bigger tires towards the inboard direction. Why on earth would you want less caster instead of more? Is your car unstable at high speeds? That would be the only reason to do it from a handling perspective- but that can be dealt with better via rake and toe.
05-20-2012, 08:46 AM
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No it doesn't. Turning the upper mount is only for those who can't fit bigger tires towards the inboard direction. Why on earth would you want less caster instead of more? Is your car unstable at high speeds? That would be the only reason to do it from a handling perspective- but that can be dealt with better via rake and toe.
I will have a new alignment done soon, I'll see if I can get the numbers (esp. caster) so I can post them here.
05-20-2012, 09:40 AM
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No, I'm saying that the explanation "Manthey does it" is crap because it does not address anything relevant concerning alignment specs. Of course, if you don't know how or why caster is used then this discussion is moot.
05-27-2012, 03:21 AM
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So, I was perusing the interwebz today and saw this-
http://www.jzmachtech.com/shells/new...hp?id_news=306
It describes Manthey's suspension setup, where they add one degree more caster to front via ball bearing upper strut mounts.
Even Manthey, whom people think is the-end-all-be-all, and can-do-no-wrong, is adding caster.
Food for thought?
http://www.jzmachtech.com/shells/new...hp?id_news=306
It describes Manthey's suspension setup, where they add one degree more caster to front via ball bearing upper strut mounts.
Even Manthey, whom people think is the-end-all-be-all, and can-do-no-wrong, is adding caster.
Food for thought?
05-27-2012, 11:17 AM
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So, I was perusing the interwebz today and saw this-
http://www.jzmachtech.com/shells/new...hp?id_news=306
It describes Manthey's suspension setup, where they add one degree more caster to front via ball bearing upper strut mounts.
Even Manthey, whom people think is the-end-all-be-all, and can-do-no-wrong, is adding caster.
Food for thought?
http://www.jzmachtech.com/shells/new...hp?id_news=306
It describes Manthey's suspension setup, where they add one degree more caster to front via ball bearing upper strut mounts.
Even Manthey, whom people think is the-end-all-be-all, and can-do-no-wrong, is adding caster.
Food for thought?
05-27-2012, 11:42 AM
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You can buy Porsche Motorsports lower control arms with Cup inner monoballs.
Those are the one that you need. Add solid thrust arm bushing and you're good to go.
You can also buy the ones from GT3RS, but than you will need the inner monoballs.
I should have a few dozens of them
Those are the one that you need. Add solid thrust arm bushing and you're good to go.
You can also buy the ones from GT3RS, but than you will need the inner monoballs.
I should have a few dozens of them
05-27-2012, 11:44 AM
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No No.
05-27-2012, 11:50 AM
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We work on those cars for longer that we can remember. Also a couple of our mechanics came from Manthey, and not to say that we are Manthey dealer in the US. There is no mystery on its geometry, but there are a few ''things'' that can be done to improve handling, and rotate the struts in a non modified suspension is not one of them. If you need more clearance for tires, you can always change shocks, top mounts, lower control arms, bushings and so.
05-28-2012, 11:20 AM
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You can buy Porsche Motorsports lower control arms with Cup inner monoballs.
Those are the one that you need. Add solid thrust arm bushing and you're good to go.
You can also buy the ones from GT3RS, but than you will need the inner monoballs.
I should have a few dozens of them
Those are the one that you need. Add solid thrust arm bushing and you're good to go.
You can also buy the ones from GT3RS, but than you will need the inner monoballs.
I should have a few dozens of them
06-27-2012, 04:28 PM
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No it doesn't. Turning the upper mount is only for those who can't fit bigger tires towards the inboard direction. Why on earth would you want less caster instead of more? Is your car unstable at high speeds? That would be the only reason to do it from a handling perspective- but that can be dealt with better via rake and toe.
http://www.prospeed.be/
These guys participate in races such as the Le Mans 24h with pilots such as the not too shabby driving Sean Edwards
I asked them to check the alignment and I also inquired about the pro's and cons of turning the top-mounts. The response was quite clear. It is a good idea to turn the top-mounts if you want to do a track alignment. There is no problem with the caster whatsoever and it is the easiest way of getting enough camber in the front.
Now if Manthey says so, and Prospeed Competition says so ... who am I to doubt this?
06-27-2012, 10:42 PM
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http://www.tarett.com/items/996-997-...996-detail.htm
06-27-2012, 11:09 PM
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06-27-2012, 11:12 PM
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