Notices
997 GT2/GT3 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Porsche North Houston

Sebring 05-12-2012

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-12-2012, 09:00 PM
  #1  
Izzone
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Izzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 7,342
Received 292 Likes on 147 Posts
Default Sebring 05-12-2012

Sebring has gotten slippery.....and too hot....and unshaved RA1 in front. Car wouldnt turn

Best lap of the day.....Detour will be posting a viseo of the worst parked on my bumper with Hooters....and some dirt kicking up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sskUu...ature=youtu.be
Old 05-12-2012, 09:17 PM
  #2  
senna
Burning Brakes
 
senna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: FL
Posts: 1,074
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If you compare the data of let's say... 2.19ish from before and this one at 2.23. where is the 3 sec?
Old 05-12-2012, 09:19 PM
  #3  
mdrums
Race Director
 
mdrums's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 15,358
Received 180 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

23's ain't bad on marshmallow full tread RA1! Especially in today's heat too.
Old 05-12-2012, 09:27 PM
  #4  
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
TRAKCAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 29,383
Received 1,628 Likes on 755 Posts
Default

Lower minimum top top speeds and lower minimum corner speeds.

Great driver, pretty close to the limit, living on the edge Randy!
If you could just stop wiggling the steering wheel into the corner and mid corner, you'd be faster.

Maybe in a few places you can go for throttle earlier if you lower minimum speed a little?
Why short shift t9?
Old 05-12-2012, 09:30 PM
  #5  
aussie jimmy
Rennlist Member
 
aussie jimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: sydney
Posts: 6,222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

great driving!
the greek video was good too
Old 05-12-2012, 09:35 PM
  #6  
Veloce Raptor
Rennlist Member
 
Veloce Raptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Guess...
Posts: 41,752
Received 1,539 Likes on 812 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Lower minimum top top speeds and lower minimum corner speeds.

Great driver, pretty close to the limit, living on the edge Randy!
If you could just stop wiggling the steering wheel into the corner and mid corner, you'd be faster.

Maybe in a few places you can go for throttle earlier if you lower minimum speed a little?
Why short shift t9?
Interesting observations, not without merit...

Also, I wonder if using all of the really rough bouncy track out curbs exiting 13 and 16 is really a bit slower than not?

I still see Randy as one of the very few who handles T1 properly.
Old 05-12-2012, 09:41 PM
  #7  
Izzone
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Izzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 7,342
Received 292 Likes on 147 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Lower minimum top top speeds and lower minimum corner speeds.

Great driver, pretty close to the limit, living on the edge Randy!
If you could just stop wiggling the steering wheel into the corner and mid corner, you'd be faster.

Maybe in a few places you can go for throttle earlier if you lower minimum speed a little?
Why short shift t9?
Interesting observations, not without merit...

Also, I wonder if using all of the really rough bouncy track out curbs exiting 13 and 16 is really a bit slower than not?

I still see Randy as one of the very few who handles T1 properly.
Thanks

It's habit I don't like shifting under load in 9 so I get it done early

I try to hold wheel steady, but solid mount front or back end sliding every turn and trying to catch it early . Probably a old dirt track race habit with wheel

13 and 16 were from unshared ra2 washing out, maybe on gas early?
Old 05-12-2012, 09:51 PM
  #8  
Veloce Raptor
Rennlist Member
 
Veloce Raptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Guess...
Posts: 41,752
Received 1,539 Likes on 812 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Izzone

I try to hold wheel steady, but solid mount front or back end sliding every turn and trying to catch it early . Probably a old dirt track race habit with wheel

13 and 16 were from unshared ra2 washing out, maybe on gas early?
On the wheel thing, I don't really see the big deal. You only do it on bumpy parts of the track, and that is pretty common with tightly coupled cars at Sebring, especially when the front is washing out.

Regarding 13 and 16, yeah you are probably right. Perhaps when it does that, just wait a split second longer before gas, which would allow just a tiny bit more rotation, so you get a straighter exit off the gators? Just a thought...

I do think that you were way early on T7. Another foot deeper before turn in would make a world of difference, unshaved RA 1's or not, and would keep you out of that nasty divot that one day will eat lots of expensive aluminum suspension or wheel parts...

See you next weekend.
Old 05-12-2012, 10:15 PM
  #9  
Izzone
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
Izzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 7,342
Received 292 Likes on 147 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Originally Posted by Izzone

I try to hold wheel steady, but solid mount front or back end sliding every turn and trying to catch it early . Probably a old dirt track race habit with wheel

13 and 16 were from unshared ra2 washing out, maybe on gas early?
On the wheel thing, I don't really see the big deal. You only do it on bumpy parts of the track, and that is pretty common with tightly coupled cars at Sebring, especially when the front is washing out.

Regarding 13 and 16, yeah you are probably right. Perhaps when it does that, just wait a split second longer before gas, which would allow just a tiny bit more rotation, so you get a straighter exit off the gators? Just a thought...

I do think that you were way early on T7. Another foot deeper before turn in would make a world of difference, unshaved RA 1's or not, and would keep you out of that nasty divot that one day will eat lots of expensive aluminum suspension or wheel parts...

See you next weekend.
See u next weekend, thanks for input
Old 05-12-2012, 11:13 PM
  #10  
SSTHO
Burning Brakes
 
SSTHO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC. (Canada)
Posts: 1,151
Received 149 Likes on 45 Posts
Default

Great driving Randy! Really enjoy watching all the Sebring videos from RL.
Old 05-12-2012, 11:27 PM
  #11  
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
TRAKCAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 29,383
Received 1,628 Likes on 755 Posts
Default

I will have to study your our T1 data...
But I am afraid it is just my lack of commitment, I always hang on the brake a bit too long, followed by the little confidence, grip checking throttle stab VR pointed out to me.
Old 05-12-2012, 11:51 PM
  #12  
jenk12m
Banned
 
jenk12m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: new york
Posts: 5,869
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just watching you work that wheel makes me tired
Old 05-12-2012, 11:52 PM
  #13  
aussie jimmy
Rennlist Member
 
aussie jimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: sydney
Posts: 6,222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

later turn-in then apex near the wall - but walls are intimidating, so it is very hard.
i think randy has been doing the steering thing since he went out with chris hall?
Old 05-13-2012, 02:09 AM
  #14  
Detour
Advanced
 
Detour's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Will get video posted tomorow, have to play with resollution, first try at 500 megs was very poor quality. High quality takes 45 mins and is 1.6 gigs. Anyone know the restrictions on youtube for size of files?
Old 05-13-2012, 02:18 AM
  #15  
mooty
GT3 player par excellence
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
mooty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: san francisco
Posts: 43,395
Received 5,630 Likes on 2,314 Posts
Default

great droving.
right on the edge. ballsy


Quick Reply: Sebring 05-12-2012



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 11:50 PM.