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Old 06-04-2012, 12:16 AM
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Get on the throttle earlier.
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Originally Posted by Nick Wong
Get on the throttle earlier.
Yes, and LFB, it's a matter of change on driving style.
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Once you stop playing with that left pedal you'll go faster. Get the braking done before the turn in and DRIVE THROUGH the turn on throttle. Trail braking is for DE "late braking kings"and cone dodgers. Can't get out of a corner if you're on the brakes!
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Originally Posted by Nick Wong
Once you stop playing with that left pedal you'll go faster. Get the braking done before the turn in and DRIVE THROUGH the turn on throttle. Trail braking is for DE "late braking kings"and cone dodgers. Can't get out of a corner if you're on the brakes!
You can't turn in if you're on the throttle
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You can if it's set up right...
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Or if Ron Fellows signs your engine.

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Old 06-04-2012, 01:23 AM
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Well in this case I have a lot to learn than, and probably so have most of the Porsche drivers.
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Perhaps. Just one guy's opinion. Then again I have twice the torque on demand as the next guy, throttle steer even with a working diff is easy.
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Obviously he doesn't know what he's doing.... either

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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Obviously he doesn't know what he's doing.... either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnEB2Myo4ks
love the left turning of the wheel in the second lap at t16
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Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Obviously he doesn't know what he's doing.... either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnEB2Myo4ks
He is barely trail braking. Hence the downshifting BEFORE the turn in. He is still trying to accelerate THROUGH THE TURN, balancing the car between maintenance and acceleration. I bet he had far more front bite than you think. Every time he pushes it is due to a mistake.

Liberal use of the left pedal doesn't make you fast. If that were the case we could just grid up and stand on the brake. Most DE guys don't know how to let the car roll, when they are unsure of themselves the default is to slow down immediately.
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Originally Posted by TurboS
Or if Ron Fellows signs your engine.
Ron Fellows is more of a Corvette racer....your engine is doomed!
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Nick, with all due respect I don't know how much experience you have in Sebring, and if you watch closely he's always on throttle very close to the apex, or at some points part it, the same way some of us drive. You can clearly see that in turn 3, 5, 7, 10, 15 A early on the throttle and flat thru the session.
I don't know how you can turn in and be on the throttle, maybe you can post a video so I can try to understand better what do you mean.
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I want to see GT2 video too next best thing besides driving it.

Nick, try to make it to Sebring this weekend!
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Peter, I am just getting to this thrtead after a full week at Watkins Glen. Very sorry for your difficulties finding a car.

Originally Posted by mdrums
Also from everything I've read is that Porsche solved the GT2 Turbo lag with the GT2RS
My experience is that too. And it's just as Eddie says: if you have lag, you're in the wrong gear...

Originally Posted by Nick Wong
Once you stop playing with that left pedal you'll go faster. Get the braking done before the turn in and DRIVE THROUGH the turn on throttle. Trail braking is for DE "late braking kings"and cone dodgers. Can't get out of a corner if you're on the brakes!
Disagree. The real time to be made up on track is under braking...and trail braking on well set up cars makes the car work so much better in the corners. GT2RS trail brakes beautifully. In addition, a really good driver will carry insane speed into the corner, start to set the car under trail braking, and be off throttle for a short window as the car settles (presuming they are rolling the car into the corner with early, shallow steering) before rolling to power. The big low-hanging fruit laptime is on corner entry...and Sean Edwards' video shows this.

Originally Posted by M3EvoBR
Obviously he doesn't know what he's doing.... either


Exactly.


Originally Posted by Nick Wong
He is barely trail braking. Hence the downshifting BEFORE the turn in. He is still trying to accelerate THROUGH THE TURN, balancing the car between maintenance and acceleration. I bet he had far more front bite than you think. Every time he pushes it is due to a mistake.

Liberal use of the left pedal doesn't make you fast. If that were the case we could just grid up and stand on the brake. Most DE guys don't know how to let the car roll, when they are unsure of themselves the default is to slow down immediately.
Nope, he is aggressively trail braking. You always want to downshift before turning. He waits a split second between brakes and power if he gets it right, to set the car with the insane entry speeds he has. Every time he pushes it is due to too much throttle too soon, which (especially on a rear engined car) unweights the already-light nose too suddenly & shrinks the front contact patches, which induces understeer.


Liberal use of the left pedal does make you faster unless "liberal" means "sudden" and "a lot of pressure"...


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