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Old 02-21-2012, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
Yes and fugly. I drove one. Drove great and in the survey told them it remained me of an AMC Gremlin.
LOL! When Porsche folks ask me why I dislike the Panamera, I tell them it is a 4 door Pacer.
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Originally Posted by jp175
Nope I did a 2:18s on RA1s in the 48 hours in traffic. Loser: super tuned; one lap wonder Fiat in sticky A6s. Easy winner; 4.0.
A6 for a DE?? Now I know why Hoosier dropped their NASA TT contingency plan, they must have decided to try and support the South Florida DE Cup...man, you guys are hardcore.

RAD, I know your high spring rates require that you use sticky tires, so I'll give you that....but calling A6's DOT tires is cheating too....lol.
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Rad, throw the towel, sooner is cheaper. You gave it your all.
You are on your own at the track and no other fiats will be joining your lonely self anytime soon. Come back from the dark side.
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jp175
Nope I did a 2:18s on RA1s in the 48 hours in traffic. Loser: super tuned; one lap wonder Fiat in sticky A6s. Easy winner; 4.0.
I need proof, data proof, 2:18 on RA1 with the 4.0RS? need proof.

4.0RS should be 4 secs faster than Scuderia at Sebring, or I can just run 2:22 on RA1, but there is too much Aero Beetle traffic at 2:22.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Rad, throw the towel, sooner is cheaper. You gave it your all.
You are on your own at the track and no other fiats will be joining your lonely self anytime soon. Come back from the dark side.
It actually is quite fun to drive a slower track car at the same pace as the faster Aero Beetles.

It is getting boring, so I'm going to start playing with the Coxster and chase Aero Beetles with a much lesser hardware, a wannabe Porsche.
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08 Cayenne GTS is reliable.

09+ Cayman/Boxster are reliable too.

Supposedly the 4.0RS is the first reliable GT3, but we will never know, because most of them are sitting as garage queens or collector items, and the only one being barely driven (Mr. Cuatro punto cero) is driving at 6/10th.

Ugly and all, the Panamera Turbo S is the best Sedan ever made, I want one with a tow hitch to haul a light trailer and a Lotus Elise.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
I need proof, data proof, 2:18 on RA1 with the 4.0RS? need proof.

4.0RS should be 4 secs faster than Scuderia at Sebring, or I can just run 2:22 on RA1, but there is too much Aero Beetle traffic at 2:22.
My aero beetle has stock tune. We all know that you have tuned your car to the moon.

RA1s are slower than a fresh set of Michellin Sport Cups as used for Nurburgring, and RA1s slower than one lap wonder and guerrilla war type DE driving A6s.

Therefore, your 4 seconds speculation is really like talking about apples and oranges and speculating about their comparisons.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
08 Cayenne GTS is reliable.

09+ Cayman/Boxster are reliable too.

Supposedly the 4.0RS is the first reliable GT3, but we will never know, because most of them are sitting as garage queens or collector items, and the only one being barely driven (Mr. Cuatro punto cero) is driving at 6/10th.

Ugly and all, the Panamera Turbo S is the best Sedan ever made, I want one with a tow hitch to haul a light trailer and a Lotus Elise.
Yes at 6/10ths the Scuderia was not able to catch or keep up with cuatro punt cero in cold tires or with all the help it could get from traffic. We have plenty in reserve. Lol!
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FERRARI = For Ever Repairs Remain A RItual
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:01 AM
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If the 4.0RS is claiming Sebring 2:18 on street tires, what times are you guys in the 3.8RS getting on street tires? how about slicks?

Rad, what tires are you using and what is your personal best in the Fiat at Sebring on slicks or street tires?
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Originally Posted by jp175
FERRARI = For Ever Repairs Remain A RItual
+1
FIAT starting it all with "Fix It Again Tony"
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Man Ferraris get no love on this board.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Scuderia: Issues ==> Brakes

VW Aero Beetle: Issues ==> broken axles, broken diff, brakes (affordable fix), blown engines (a few ones towed from track days in the last few months), RMS leaks, coolant lines falling apart, cracked side mufflers, cracked center muffler, bent drop links, broken rear sway bar mounts, broken clutch and pressure plates.

I can carry a bunch of brake pads and go through the day, but you can't carry a spare engine or tranny to go through the day.
+1 cracked exhaust manifolds and ABS on the SCUD
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
Man Ferraris get no love on this board.
I love Ferraris....but this IS a Porsche board
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