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Old 02-21-2012 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerokitted
So pretty much, in summary, the Scuderia can't be touched, even the 4.0 or Porsche's best 911 GT offering.

Never thought I'd see this day, but hey, well done Ferrari! You beat Porsche at its own game with the Scud.

Disappointed in the Rennlist GT guys for not putting up a harder fight against our Fiatista!
Yeah the Scuderia beats the RS 3.8 and 4.0 for parked time.
Old 02-21-2012 | 07:17 PM
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If I met a rich sugar mama today and she wanted to spoil me, I would ask for the Scuderia because the 4.0 would be redundant.
Old 02-21-2012 | 07:39 PM
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Rad, enjoy your new title. You've earned it.
hahahaha!!!!!!
thanks for today's first lol!!!!
Old 02-21-2012 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by carcommander
Now, now 1 or 2 Ferraris start a cook out and you condemn them all.
apparently the new breadvan ff is combustible as well.
Old 02-21-2012 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jp175
bottomline - Mr. Ferrari Ambassador and his Fiat have not completed a Sebring event without any issues. Now I know why he knows so much about cars and their problems. Lol!
Scuderia: Issues ==> Brakes

VW Aero Beetle: Issues ==> broken axles, broken diff, brakes (affordable fix), blown engines (a few ones towed from track days in the last few months), RMS leaks, coolant lines falling apart, cracked side mufflers, cracked center muffler, bent drop links, broken rear sway bar mounts, broken clutch and pressure plates.

I can carry a bunch of brake pads and go through the day, but you can't carry a spare engine or tranny to go through the day.
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Originally Posted by jp175
Yeah the Scuderia beats the RS 3.8 and 4.0 for parked time.
- Autocross: Winner: Fiat, Loser: 4.0RS

- Drag Race: Winner: Fiat, Loser: all the Aero Beetles, time to bring the Turbo ones.

- Sebring Lap: what's your fast time at Sebring on DOT tires? 2:19? Winner: Fiat, Loser: 4.0RS
Old 02-21-2012 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Scuderia: Issues ==> Brakes

VW Aero Beetle: Issues ==> broken axles, broken diff, brakes (affordable fix), blown engines (a few ones towed from track days in the last few months), RMS leaks, coolant lines falling apart, cracked side mufflers, cracked center muffler, bent drop links, broken rear sway bar mounts, broken clutch and pressure plates.

I can carry a bunch of brake pads and go through the day, but you can't carry a spare engine or tranny to go through the day.
Caveat- the majority of GT3 owners track their cars. The overwhelming majority of Scud owners do not.
Old 02-21-2012 | 08:28 PM
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Ok Im on the iphone so I'll keep it short.

Assuming that with a sample of one we can say that statistically the Scuderia has no other issues. (and that's a big assumption mind you, cause if I start describing my horrible other F car stories and start googling, it probably won't stand)



LSD 350EUR fix DIY

RMS? None reported in the 2010 cars

Broken axles? I looked earlier and Rennlist has 8 threads and 29 hits 6/7GT axles hits in 10 years and 9 of them are yours. No 1/4 miles, no slicks, no 700 hp, no problem.

drop links? Sway bar mounts? factory height no problem, now added as a maintenance item for the 2010 cars. Cheap fix remove preload with adjustable ones from the cup cars.

ABS mentioned in your previous post is not a Porsche only issue.

I'll give you the 2010 PP (fixed on the 4 with a 25% failure ratio per my poll ), the coolant pipes and the cracked exhausts. (although I have to say that I prefer cracks over fires.)

The GT3s are not perfect and I am usually the one pointing out their chronic unresolved issues, but please include their fixes in the original purchase prices and you'll notice that with the money saved you can track a GT3 for about 5 years for free and pass Scuds in the track all day long while doing it. Yes they are still faster stock. Then you can rebuild the engine and drive it daily on the street for the next 30.


Blown engines as the rule on the most reliable race engine ever created? Come on!
We have members here with 300K miles! 3 0 0.
Please find me one Ferrari, any color, any year, any model (you can even include the fiberglass copies with American V8s inside) with that millage and a down to earth maintenance bill and I will self ban myself, tattoo the Cavallino on my arm, join Ferrarichat and for two weeks sing Verdi for the flighty GT3.. È sempre misero chi a lei s'affida..

PS. I am glad that this time you didn't include the Cayenne in your list of reliable cars.

PPS. Ambassadors in Rennlist have no diplomatic immunity and can be charged for trolling.
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Brevity is a sweet thing
Old 02-21-2012 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Scuderia: Issues ==> Brakes

VW Aero Beetle: Issues ==> broken axles, broken diff, brakes (affordable fix), blown engines (a few ones towed from track days in the last few months), RMS leaks, coolant lines falling apart, cracked side mufflers, cracked center muffler, bent drop links, broken rear sway bar mounts, broken clutch and pressure plates.

I can carry a bunch of brake pads and go through the day, but you can't carry a spare engine or tranny to go through the day.
In five years of running GT3s and hard I have not had any of those issues that you state above other than a little leak that got fixed. I have finished every single event that I started.

I have two friends that had Scuderias and sold them due to tranny issues and my grandmother drove harder than them.

If there were as many Scuderias as GT3s running and finishing events, I'm certain you will hear about many more Ferrari deficiencies.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
- Autocross: Winner: Fiat, Loser: 4.0RS

- Drag Race: Winner: Fiat, Loser: all the Aero Beetles, time to bring the Turbo ones.

- Sebring Lap: what's your fast time at Sebring on DOT tires? 2:19? Winner: Fiat, Loser: 4.0RS
Nope I did a 2:18s on RA1s in the 48 hours in traffic. Loser: super tuned; one lap wonder Fiat in sticky A6s. Easy winner; 4.0.
Old 02-21-2012 | 09:16 PM
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^I really like your 4.0 PTS and I'm not a blue color fan. Converted now : ). What color blue is it? Badass!!! Mike
Old 02-21-2012 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
^I really like your 4.0 PTS and I'm not a blue color fan. Converted now : ). What color blue is it? Badass!!! Mike
I agree- that thing is hot!
Old 02-21-2012 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
^I really like your 4.0 PTS and I'm not a blue color fan. Converted now : ). What color blue is it? Badass!!! Mike
Thanks......Maritime Blue.
Old 02-21-2012 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by aussie jimmy
apparently the new breadvan ff is combustible as well.
Yes and fugly. I drove one. Drove great and in the survey told them it remained me of an AMC Gremlin.


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