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Old 12-27-2011, 06:46 PM
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Default Ultimate track suspension setup for a GT3 RS.1

Hello Speed Addicted)
I'm sure there are many people with good track experience and suspension tuning to help us.
We need to make an ultimate suspension setup for a GT3 RS Mk1. It has stock body, stock engine.
The car runs in Russia and will participate in national time attack championship.
I was thinking about adding a set of high performance racing 2-way dampers like Motons, JRZ, ANZE/Penske, Ohlins TTX.
Fabryce at GMG suggested to put their monoball arms and anti-roll bars leaving the stock dampers and springs. But I doubt it will work best for us.
We need a good amount of rebound to be fast on slow tracks with high kerbs and be able to adjust the suspension for the faster tracks.

We will have 2 low speed tracks with many tight corners and two mid to high
speed corners, 1 with mainly mid speed corners and low grip pavement, 2 high
speed tracks with good grippy pavement with several elevation changes. The
tires will be 90% Michelin PS Cup as we cannot see huge difference if
putting 18" for now. We cannot put Hoosiers R6/A6 or similar tire due to class
regualtions.

Sample video from the fastest track around here with this particular car on slicks:

Any comments/thoughts are welcome.

Thanks in advance, Alexander.
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contact Jan Erren @ Manthey Motors in Germany ... go with a set of their KW custom sprung and valved... or check out the thread on the http://www.exe-tc.co.uk/ suspension ... this might be a better solution for low speed tracks ...

you are going to need experience in tuning/configuring the suspension ... go with either of these guys you will *NOT* be disappointed!
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+1

Saved me from typing..

Only Manthey can pull off a suspension setup by wire for the average Joe and for an unknown track.
Their KW is overpriced, their experience comes cheap.
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Waiting for you to reply on the PS steak.
Trakcar challenged us openly.
Old 12-27-2011, 08:43 PM
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KW is what I said + CUP LSD.
Plus whatever Manthey (AKA Porsche skunkworks) says.


The challenge stands.
Any excuse to go to the Ring is a good one.

Maybe if I promise the wife we go back to Asolo and leave her there for a few days....
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I'm thinking either the scuderia hanseat in may or the 3-day touristfahren 26th-28th May 2012 for my next visit ...



I'm also tempted by the PSDS G-Force school in Leipzig on 9th-10th June
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Maybe we can try this again for 2012.

Send me some links, what where do yoy get for car? Maybe I can get the same and you can show me around the Ring.

I will look to see if I can book it, maybe pay off and ship the RS. The Euro will be 1 USD thanks to 911SLOW soon after all ;-)
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Can I come too?
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We can fit 2 cars, tires and tools in 1 40' container. Or share rental 911 from Avis.
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Go with Cup uprights and subframe, and start from there.
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
We can fit 2 cars, tires and tools in 1 40' container. Or share rental 911 from Avis.
i think street rentals not allowed at the ring. mega - euro fines apply.
they got electronic tracking devices or something.
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I know that Europcar has spotters at the ring who look for their cars and will fine you if they catch you. Shenanigans still occur, though:

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Don't rent in Germany..
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If your class allows it, I would, highly, highly, highly suggest you replace every single piece of rubber in the suspension (RSS, Tarett, GMG, etc) - to me this would be critical when you are going for the last 1/2 second.

I would also replace the engine mounts with semi solid or solid (wevo or Rennline) - if the class allows this - another must - you have to stop the engine from moving / shifting it's large load.

Not as critical, but on the shorter tracks with lots of 2nd to 3rd shifts, you want the 996 cup shifter and cables - if you have to slow your 2nd to 3rd shift during a side loading track out - it will cost you.

Shorter 18" wheels will lower CG and improve gearing

Wide front tire with 9-10" rim


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