I'm sure the car referenced above is ROW. In Europe these seem to trade in that range (in USD) with some miles (a buddy had one offered to him by a guy in norway for about that price, but of course upon research realized how difficult/expensive it would be to federalize).

On the topic of values, I had an interesting convo with a buddy about these 997-2's the other day. He has a lot of money, and a lot of cars, of all kinds (including manual c7 zo6, 996 gt3, 700hp 996tt, some old American muscle, etc...). I was trying to convince him to consider one of these based on the fun factor, reliability, and prospect of increasing values, and his response was that if prices are anywhere near low 300's for a good example, he'd rather just spring for a 991 gt2rs. I told him I thought that was light for a 991 Gt2rs and he promptly sent me 3-4 listings of cars with moderate amounts of miles (all between 20-25k miles) ranging from 315k to 350k. That surprised me. It kind of got me thinking though (and the car offered at 315k is local to me and has the Weissach package). As much as I love me a manual mezger, if prices re pushing into 991 gt2rs prices, I could see how that might make the choice pretty tough for someone who just wants a cool fun car and isn't hell bent on a 997 gt2 no matter what (like me!). Anyway, never really thought about it like that.

 

@ScottArizona that's a solid take as I have similar thoughts about my 997.1 GT2. I would be willing to consider moving to a 991.2 GT2 RS from that car, whereas I wouldn't be willing to part with my 997.2 GT3 RS at all. So, I definitely understand where your friend is coming from. In fact, the only two cars I'd consider moving to from my GT2 are the 991.2 GT2 RS and the McLaren 720S/750S. It's odd that both cars have DCT transmissions, but since I spend time with all these cars I can say that there is indeed something special about being able to use all the power with less skill (since that is the only rational way to say it). I absolutely love shifting for myself, but also can admit that I rarely get everything out of my GT2 due to my own limitations, not the cars. Managing high RPM shifts on the GT2 is not easy as anyone who owns one can attest, whereas with those modern cars I can approach the acceleration limits of both cars quite easily. Thanks for a nice response on this thread!

 

There's generally always something that's newer and better for the same price when looking at any modern classics.

Driving experience and overall enjoyment ultimately drive the demand for these cars. 997 GT2 in my opinion is still undervalued considering all the boxes it checks.

 

In regards to the $119k USD GT2 that car either doesn't exist, has very high mileage, is a rebuild or a combination of these.

Prices are not that cheap in RoW either. A quality RoW car is still minimum $200k USD.

 

The poster about the $119k car is probably a bot. I doubt the car exists.

 

Considering he just joined this month...

Be careful dming him and trying to secure this fictitious car. High probability of a scammer.

 

Surprising to hear that 997.1 GT2 would be compared to 992.1 GT2 RS. The thought never really crossed my mind that they are remotely comparable (but maybe the obviously should be?)

I think Steve nailed it that driving the GT2 fast (high in the rev range) takes a certain willingness to take risk (your safety or the car's mechanical safety) where as a 991.2 GT2 RS absolves that.

Also, 3x Worldwide and 5x North America production volumes on the 991.2, means they're not in the same ballpark of scarcity.

If I was thinking about adding a 991.2 GT2 RS, I'd probably buy a 675LT for $50-75k less, and get a car that was much rarer, lighter, hydraulic steering, and looks better (IMO)....and for my driving ability, would be equally as fast.

 

And for the record I do agree. They are undervalued still, and if it weren't for the overall "correction" that is currently underway right now for most of these older European "classics" (not just Porsches), I'm sure they would be even higher. But the fact remains that most examples out there are still a quarter million bucks (plus). And the number of buyers out there willing and able to shell out that kind of cheddar for a 15-year old Porsche that 95% of the public won't even recognize as a "special" car (unlike much "lesser" cars that nonetheless enjoy the "exotic" moniker), and be able/willing to do it without substantial financing (since financing just isn't very palatable at the moment for many folks) is probably just not that big.

As for the 991 gt2rs, another reason I'd prefer the 997 (assuming the price has not overlapped 991 gt2rs levels) is that the 991 and beyond stuff just seems so computerized and digital, and thus complex. I value simplicity and ease of maintenance/repair if something goes wrong. One reasons I love the mezgers is because they were on the tail end of the "analogue era" rather than the "driving supercomputer" era with its sophisticated driving systems, information screens, digital gauges, and the like. I mean, with the help of youtube and forums I was able to successfully change the clutch/flywheels in my gt3, and its not because they taught those skills in law school!

 

atlrvr brought up a great point about the 675LT as it's a Super series car made in limited quantities, and thus should do better over time with regard to value, similar to the mental 765LT. However, as a dealer who has sold 3 McLarens let me be the first to shout from the rooftops that they are not Porsches in the reliability department. Some of the failures and maintenance that I've lived through gave me absolute heart attacks, and don't even think about creating a low voltage situation for the car as you won't even believe what it tries to tell you!

Pardon the non-politically correct comparison to follow, but I feel it's needed here.

McLaren - drop dead gorgeous supermodel that can go all-night long and you want to show her off to your friends, but holy hell is she expensive, fickle, and difficult to live with. You don't want her to meet your parents and she will fight with you and burn you to the ground if given the chance.

Porsche - beautiful and great natured woman that you would take home to meet your parents and happily settle down with. She will always do her best to treat you right, and will do her best to avoid conflict. She's not the flashiest, but will be a fantastic long-term partner.

 

New BaT listing:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...he-911-gt2-30/

With the rarer sport (sofa) seats. Despite popularly held opinion, we have found last few years that lack of buckets does not lead to lower values.
Personally, I would argue the opposite....that the sport seats are more desirable because not only of their rarity, but also because of the way these cars are used and enjoyed these days. How many of them have you seen on the track lately?

will be interesting to see how this one does.

 

According to my notes, Niche Motors listed this car on 4/29/23 for $299,975, then dropped to $269,975 on 9/29/23. That tow hitch damage on the rear bumper and right rear quarter ding/scratch hurts to see, but already off to a strong start.

 

At Road Atlanta for Smokies GT a few weeks ago! I agree it is very rare to see though.

 

2008 911 GT2
Guards Red / Dark Gray Natural Leather
8,682mi
https://swvintage.com/382434/2008-PORSCHE-911-GT2

No pics, price, or details yet but wanted to share the lead

 

Usually SW Vintage lists their cars on BaT but puts the car on their site for a few weeks while they wait for BaT listing to go live. Think they've sold cars ahead of auctions though.

I've spoke to Mark there before on a car a few years ago, and I had positive impression, FWIW.

 

That’s has to be one of the higher optioned GT2s?

https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AD29938S796233/